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  1. excreationist

    In Genesis the plants were created before the sun moon and stars

    I guess you're saying that applies to all the Christians who believe that the Bible says that the sun, moon, and stars were created on day 4.... including those who created Bible translations and decided not to say that the sun, moon, and stars already existed before day 4. I mean Bible...
  2. excreationist

    In Genesis the plants were created before the sun moon and stars

    Actually I believe we're probably in a simulation and there is a God that isn't obvious. I think the simulation might only begin at a snapshot rather than each simulation being explicitly based on billions of years. I think plausible evolutionary trees can be found in the fossil record.
  3. excreationist

    In Genesis the plants were created before the sun moon and stars

    There are a few beliefs that are based on single (or a few) Bible verses.... like the gap theory which says there could have been billions of years between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2. It's impressive how flexible the Bible can be.
  4. excreationist

    In Genesis the plants were created before the sun moon and stars

    When God feeds the animals (the ones that don't starve to death) does he supernaturally intervene?
  5. excreationist

    In Genesis the plants were created before the sun moon and stars

    You seemed to say that when animals are fed it is thanks to God.... when they starve perhaps God has some kind of excuse - like it is due to the curse - when is because of sin....
  6. excreationist

    In Genesis the plants were created before the sun moon and stars

    What about when animals starve to death in a drought? Is God also responsible for that? Or is it chance?
  7. excreationist

    In Genesis the plants were created before the sun moon and stars

    I think it is a test of your character - most Christians would say that even though God said to kill everything that breathes (including babies) in Deuteronomy 20:16-18 God is still perfectly loving.... or they could become flat earthers if they trust the Bible over science....
  8. excreationist

    In Genesis the plants were created before the sun moon and stars

    So are you saying you're better at Hebrew than those YEC organisations?
  9. excreationist

    In Genesis the plants were created before the sun moon and stars

    Your Bible quotes seem to be from the Jehovah Witnesses' Bible: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/b/r1/lp-e/nwt/1/1#study=discover Like I said if it is so obvious that you are correct why is it that YEC organisations always say the sun, moon, and stars were created on day 4?
  10. excreationist

    In Genesis the plants were created before the sun moon and stars

    If it is so obvious that Genesis 1 said that the sun, moon, and stars already created in the beginning rather than on day 4 then why aren't I aware of any young earth creationist organisations that say this?
  11. excreationist

    In Genesis the plants were created before the sun moon and stars

    If what you say is true why is it that no Bible translations seem to say this clearly - also in your quote it says "God went on to make" rather than "God had made".
  12. excreationist

    In Genesis the plants were created before the sun moon and stars

    BTW before the sun was created what was the earth doing? Was it orbiting the spot where the sun would be created? Or was it still then started moving after the sun was created?
  13. excreationist

    In Genesis the plants were created before the sun moon and stars

    https://creation.com/refuting-flat-earth That "refutes" the “200+ flat earth Bible verses”. They don't give examples of Bible verses that support a spherical earth - instead they only talk about science. So science is against a flat earth - but what about the Bible?
  14. excreationist

    In Genesis the plants were created before the sun moon and stars

    Out of these verses at least a few dozen would be relevant: Since you can't provide ONE example do you think the authors of the Bible thought the earth was flat or spherical? Yes I believe most of the Bible isn't true. When it says the sun, moon, and stars were created after the plants is...
  15. excreationist

    In Genesis the plants were created before the sun moon and stars

    Please give ONE example of a Bible verse that contradicts the flat earth theory (more than it does the globe) or ONE example that suggests a spherical earth. It does talk about the "circle" of the earth in Isaiah 40:22 but I can explain why I think it fits a flat earth better than a sphere. See...
  16. excreationist

    In Genesis the plants were created before the sun moon and stars

    Genesis 1 and Revelation talk about God's light (without the sun) and in Genesis it was separated into day and night. A much bigger problem is that on earth there are always places that are morning and places that are evening - but Genesis 1 implies that everywhere on earth is the same time of...
  17. excreationist

    In Genesis the plants were created before the sun moon and stars

    Just in case people didn't notice it before, this is what it says in Genesis 1: As you can see there are similarities between days 1 and 4, days 2 and 5, and days 3 and 6. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framework_interpretation It has a kind of poetic structure so it might not be intended...
  18. excreationist

    Is Satan being present in many places at once Biblical?

    So do you have an awareness of multiple places at once? e.g. hearing and seeing different places in the world simultaneously? (without modern technology) Can you talk to those places simultaneously as well saying different things to different places?
  19. excreationist

    Is Satan being present in many places at once Biblical?

    Apparently in Joyce Meyer's "Battlefield of the Mind" Satan himself is present in many people's minds at once. But I thought Satan was an angel and it seems angels can only have one location or focus at a time. It seems the only beings in the Bible that can be present in many places...
  20. excreationist

    Is this Old Testament passage "hate speech"?

    https://www.quora.com/Where-are-the-Canaanites-today This says: It seems to be saying that the original Canaanite ethnicity no longer exists... (while the Jews have maintained the same identity for a long time) BTW if Israelites came from Canaanites does it mean that God wants those Israelites...
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