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  1. John D. Brey

    Just out of idle curiosity -- about the election...

    What's kinda funny in this thread, beginning with the first post, is the idea that since no one is arguing that this election was rigged, arguing that the last one was is somehow proven wrong. It doesn't work that way. The last election was rigged, this one wasn't. It's that simple. Democrats...
  2. John D. Brey

    US Capitol rioters await Trump pardons

    As I noted earlier, there was a decrease in votes for both Democrats and Republicans this year. But the decrease was greater for Democrats since more of the fake ballots were cast for Biden last election. But not all of the fake ballots were cast for Biden. The conspirators knew they had to...
  3. John D. Brey

    US Capitol rioters await Trump pardons

    And yet you don't bother to back your statement up with one iota of argumentation or documentation. You therefore seem to justify my earlier claim that leftists believe they have so much Truth that they don't need to argue or document it, but merely make claims and demonize anyone who doesn't...
  4. John D. Brey

    US Capitol rioters await Trump pardons

    Hey. This is your conversation as much as anyone.:) That's a good question. And it also opens a new can of worms since most conservatives believe the Covid lockdowns were partly an attempt to mess with Trump's Presidency. I believe the liberals used Covid as a means of causing chaos and...
  5. John D. Brey

    US Capitol rioters await Trump pardons

    Just a quick note. Anyone who's familiar with my theological beliefs knows that I reject the idea that eisegesis is dangerous. There is no exegesis without eisegesis. And the belief that you can exegete "objectively" is the greatest falsehood there could ever be. You might be able to exegete...
  6. John D. Brey

    US Capitol rioters await Trump pardons

    Right. Nevertheless, it's been my lived-experience that the farther you go to the left of things, the more rabidly sure the person becomes that they're the owner and purveyor of the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. When you own the truth, why should you have to debate and...
  7. John D. Brey

    US Capitol rioters await Trump pardons

    Part of the issue is precisely what you're calling the "burden of proof." That burden was insurmountable once the bar had been raised to having to throw out a duly elected President. Once the election determined Biden was President Elect, now, it wasn't a case of determining the truth of the...
  8. John D. Brey

    US Capitol rioters await Trump pardons

    As you know, theology, or philosophy is more my forte. I don't generally like debating politics. But Tuesday night was near and dear to me since I was treated like President Trump in what was formerly my favorite forum where I spent my time for over twenty years. When, four years ago, I argued...
  9. John D. Brey

    US Capitol rioters await Trump pardons

    You appear to be spoon-fed by the leftist media conglomerate. :) They like to say that Trump lost every court case concerning his belief that the election was stolen. But the truth is that every court denied him the ability to bring the case. He didn't lose any case. That's another leftist...
  10. John D. Brey

    US Capitol rioters await Trump pardons

    Fair enough. What do you think they did know that made them pull the lever for Trump? "Election denial" is a term cooked up by the prosecution. I am not an election denier. I am a reasonably educated and reasonably objective observer of an election that was a farce by any reasonable standard...
  11. John D. Brey

    US Capitol rioters await Trump pardons

    I think you might misunderstand the law? We have a jury of the alleged criminal's peers because we understand some of the limits of a written law. The prosecution doesn't get to determine the case no matter how versed in the law and the case. Donald J. Trump was just judged by a jury of his...
  12. John D. Brey

    US Capitol rioters await Trump pardons

    For four years Donald J. Trump has been tried in the courts and in the court of public opinion for the crime of the January six uprising. It's fair to assume not one single voter who pulled the lever to make Donald J. Trump the President of the United States of America was unaware that he...
  13. John D. Brey

    US Capitol rioters await Trump pardons

    I apologize. I intended to answer your question more directly and got sidetracked. Yes. If they're really that concerned, and if they have the gumption and courage necessary. And naturally, it will help if they believe the majority of the nation supports them. Case in point. The fact that the...
  14. John D. Brey

    US Capitol rioters await Trump pardons

    In an earlier post, I noted a heated argument I had with a leftist Aussie who was bragging about how many more social programs Australia had compared to big bad USA. I implied to him that if his country, and all the other countries in the world, were prepared to defend themselves against threats...
  15. John D. Brey

    US Capitol rioters await Trump pardons

    The proclivity for all of us to read events through our own personal lens is why, since the beginning of human history, wars, civil and non-civil, have been fought repeatedly and without fail. When unity disintegrates, when we all start to take sides, all that's left is to see who has the...
  16. John D. Brey

    US Capitol rioters await Trump pardons

    I agree with you. Which is why bringing in the laws of physics is important. Are there non-negotiable, immutable principles, at work in the world that are based on a secure reality, and which can be used to sniff-out who's trying to change the world in potentially honorable, but false, ways, in...
  17. John D. Brey

    US Capitol rioters await Trump pardons

    You really have guzzled the jug of leftist KoolAid haven't you? :cool: John
  18. John D. Brey

    US Capitol rioters await Trump pardons

    At a Trump rally, Elon Musk pointed out that our Founding Father's gave us the First Amendment so that we could talk back to liars in the media and or the government. He then noted that in their wisdom, our Founding Father's realized that the only way to guarantee that government and their media...
  19. John D. Brey

    US Capitol rioters await Trump pardons

    No doubt. To some extent truth is in the eye of the beholder. Many of my liberal friends told me quite bluntly that they hated President Trump so vehemently that if the election was stolen, the end justified the means. I would say many who came to power with President Biden's win held a...
  20. John D. Brey

    US Capitol rioters await Trump pardons

    Your argument engages the question of "originalism" versus "living constitutionalism." That question expands to engulf much of the debate between the Right versus the Left. Furthermore, the question of originalism versus constitutionalism hinges on the physical laws of thermodynamics...
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