Then it's not worth discussing. Why would anyone want to enter a discussion where the topic is arbitrary such that any search for meaning is a waste of time?
John
Well put. And so true. There's a subtle distinction between a pagan sex-magic cult, or doctrine, versus a true recognition that the deepest truths in Judaism and Christianity are guarded by a a fence constructed to look like pagan sex-magic doctrines. That fence keeps most self-righteous sorts...
. . . the Hebrew word ot ["sign"] used by the priestly author to describe the covenant “sign” of circumcision (Gen. 17:11) is used elsewhere iconically . . . In chapter 1 I introduced the term “icon” to describe a symbolic item that points to its referent not only because we decided arbitrarily...
. . . Would you believe there's no word found in the OT that's properly interpreted and translated "foreskin"?
A "sign" signifies. That's what it does. What does the sign of the covenant signify? Don't say, "the covenant," since that produces a tautology.
It implies she couldn't get pregnant...
Remember that if Adam had not sinned . . . Man would not have been required to bring himself close to G-d by means of an animal sacrifice; he himself would have been the sacrifice, much as is described by our sages when they tell of the archangel Michael offering the souls of the departed...
The key to the linkage between Abraham's circumcision and God's is found in the relationship between Abraham's circumcision and the Akedah. What's seminal to Abraham's circumcision and the Akedah is the fact that one represents the other. Therefore, the flesh of Abraham's phallus can be thought...
Circumcision seems to represent the sort of sacrifice that undoes having been born into sin.
Where do you get the idea that, "Abraham never lay with Sarai"?
As was noted earlier in the thread, technically speaking Isaac isn't born circumcised. He's circumcised eight days after he's born...
The saying that Adam disguised the fact that he had no foreskin means he became a min, a heretic, through epispasm (reversing what circumcision implies). When Rabbi Horowitz claims Adam's epispasm (hiding the nature of a circumcised body) make him distinct from Isaac, he is, Horowitz is...
Ben Bag Bag said: Turn it over, and [again] turn it over, for all is therein. And look into it; And become gray and old therein; And do not move away from it, for you have no better portion than it.
Pirkei Avot 5:22.
Where the kabbalistic imagery of yesod as God's own divine phallus is taken...
I think I understand your point. And I don't disagree with you fully. But I think the written text of scripture we possess has a ton of wiggle-room when it comes to interpretation. It's way above my pay grade to judge who is or isn't part of God's family. I don't think the written text is able...
I probably know what you're implying. And in my opinion, any attempt to demonize any conglomeration of peoples be they "liberals" or "Jews" or "Christians" or what have you, takes the focus away from the true power politics that moves the world. Paul said our battle isn't with Jews or liberals...
The foregoing seamlessly parallels God's circumcision with Abraham's. And where Abraham's circumcision is understood as the precursor to the Akedah (the sacrifice of Isaac), God's circumcision logically presages the offering of God's son as a korban קרבן such that where the parallel between...
Another, similar, statement from Professor Scholem segues into the meat of the current study:
We now come to the problem of the sexual symbolism which throughout the Kabbalah, is inseparable from the image of the Tsaddik [the Righteous One of God]. In terms of mirroring the structure of Adam...
I would say that there has to be a fundamental distinction between there being "multiple ways" versus all ways being equally valid. If all ways are equally valid, then dialogue is pointless other than as a form of self-gratification and perhaps sharing gratification with like-minded persons...
. . . Then shouldn't your avatar have the same Hebrew phrase but with a hand giving the finger? You've given at least two people in this forum the middle finger in one week. I vote you modify your avatar. :cool:
John
Proverbs 10:25 tells us, "The righteous is the foundation of the world" (וצדיק יסוד עולם). In the text, "righteous" צדיק, is a singular absolute: it's not talking about a group of righteous ones, but the singular source for the plurality of righteous souls that are poured out, or that fly out...