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  1. Eliana

    Mother mary without sin?

    ...and the word "pedophile" means child (pedo)+friendly love (phile) if translated literally. If I were to say "I think GoodAttention is a pedophile" I guarantee you'd be screaming at the mods to remove the post and ban me. If I were to respond "What man? The meaning of the word if broken down...
  2. Eliana

    Mother mary without sin?

    I didn't insult you, I said you were a slow learner which was based on you repeating yourself and continuing to make statements I've already expressed my indifference to. You being offended does not equate an insult. I will remind you that you implied religious Jews are brainwashed which is in...
  3. Eliana

    Mother mary without sin?

    You're a slow learner. I don't care if you don't believe in the Torah, or what you believe at all. At no point did you see me ask you your opinion on Judaism or the divinity of the Torah, nor did I attempt to tell you what to believe. Repeating your opinion as if it's indisputable fact doesn't...
  4. Eliana

    Mother mary without sin?

    Sorry, I don't have much patience for donkey arguments nor do I like repeating myself. I couldn't care less what you believe.
  5. Eliana

    Mother mary without sin?

    I don't care what you believe about G-d. I'm not trying to change your mind and I didn't ask you to change mine. Either the Torah is true or it isn't and it does not allow for pluralism. Once one takes a position that the Torah is not divine then that's the end of the line theologically...
  6. Eliana

    Mother mary without sin?

    That's the opposite of an amazing question! Glad to answer! Moses was a Jew because he followed Judaism... duh. The "Synagogue" he attended was on Mount Sinai at the foot of Hashem.
  7. Eliana

    Mother mary without sin?

    Welcome to the internet, where the written word carries no tone and may be precieved differently then the writer intended. I asked you to clarify your intent and stated how I interpreted it. You elected not to clarify so I assume my interpretation was correct. Nor did I claim you had an agenda...
  8. Eliana

    Mother mary without sin?

    I'm not interested in games and I stated my reasons why I believe they deify her. I really don't care if that rankles others, it's my opinion. Jews don't proselytize and I don't care what others believe. At no point did you ever see me on this message board try to convince anyone to be Jewish...
  9. Eliana

    Mother mary without sin?

    You're not nearly as smart as you think you are. I do not like Christianity or Islam but I would never ever call Jesus/Muhammad rapists, or denigrate their leaders. I especially will not put up with those types of comments about HaShem. Since I already expressed my extreme intolerance for that...
  10. Eliana

    Mother mary without sin?

    She is ascribed many traits of a deity, is prayed to and called mother of G-D. Catholics insist they don't worship her, but their practices show otherwise. I go by the Torah, and HaShem is pretty clear. Regardless I think all Christianity is Idolatry, Catholic or otherwise. What, is it...
  11. Eliana

    Mother mary without sin?

    If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck... They attribute divine attributes to her, pray to her and call her "mother of G-D". The differences are you can ask a priest or rabbi to pray FOR you. Catholics pray TO spirits and deceased beings. Christians claim the Jewish scriptures as...
  12. Eliana

    Mother mary without sin?

    First of all according to the Christian bible HaShem made her pregnant via divine providence. This may come as a shock for your brain, but if G-D can create the universe by willpower alone he can probably cause a pregnancy without physical procreation. Secondly an angel visited her beforehand...
  13. Eliana

    Mother mary without sin?

    Do you have reason to believe Mary did such?
  14. Eliana

    Mother mary without sin?

    As I understand it conservative "Jews" are supposed to follow halakha, so once again your views seem quite out of the mainstream. If I went into my synagogue and said the things you said I could be excommunicated.
  15. Eliana

    Mother mary without sin?

    Either you aren't Jewish or aren't a religious one because you are falsely presenting Christian theology as Jewish. If I went into a synagogue and said what you were saying I'd be excommunicated. - Jews have never believed in original sin so there was nothing to preserve Eve from to begin...
  16. Eliana

    Mother mary without sin?

    I was speaking on the deification of Mary, not the source of Christian doctrine. Praying to/praying through is a distinction without a difference. Like I said, I don't have a dog in the fight and I think Christianity is idolatry either way. I was just making an observation.
  17. Eliana

    Mother mary without sin?

    Where does HaShem say it's okay to consult spirits and so on as long as you aren't looking for a reply? I was under the impression don't do it means don't do it. Is it also okay for a married person to flirt with or hit on other people as long as they aren't expecting a response? Can I build a...
  18. Eliana

    Mother mary without sin?

    I believe I acknowledge they claim not to worship her, and yet you keep explaining Catholicism to me as if I asked why they do what they do. what I said was they deify her while claiming they don't worship her. Do you actually read the entire posts people make before responding? In addition...
  19. Eliana

    Mother mary without sin?

    You saw where I said I grew up in Catholic Ireland? I'm well aware what Catholics claim. What I said was they deify Mary while claiming they don't. I also listed examples of the divine attributes they ascribe to her, all without even a basis in their own bible. As far as praying to saints and...
  20. Eliana

    Mother mary without sin?

    I think the greater question is if G-D went out of his way to preserve Mary from "original sin", why didn't he do so for everyone else? Jews don't believe in original sin, so I ask only as an intelectual exercise. Having grown up in Ireland I've had more then my share of exposure to...
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