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  1. Karolina

    Circumcision - why exactly?

    I apologise that I did turn this into a debate, you're right, I should've known better. Circumcision is the norm where I live so I reacted defensively for no good reason. I don't know what Christian reference you're talking about though... The idol thing? I'm basing that on the intro to Judaism...
  2. Karolina

    Ask me anything about Quakers

    Where is this Quaker DIR on RF? I did a search and don't see it :(
  3. Karolina

    Monotheistic non-trinitarian LGBTQ affirming religions?

    A tall order, indeed, I'm finding ;) The interpretation of Scripture is at issue. Traditional, orthodox interpretations agree with what you state here. But there are other interpretations, ones that take into account the culture of the times, etc. The 30,000 Christian denominations clearly...
  4. Karolina

    Circumcision - why exactly?

    I'm sorry you feel the need to be smirky about this. I started this thread since I was considering conversion to Judaism, so you know, it was a bit of a relevant topic for me. What attracted me to Judaism in part was the supposed wide range of acceptable opinions among Jews. But now I'm back...
  5. Karolina

    Circumcision - why exactly?

    Agreed. My point being simply that to circumcise - or not - shouldn't be dictated by one's religion. Thanks for the link... from it I see this: "The brit milah, ritual circumcision, is a symbol of our partnership with G‑d. Etched in the flesh of our physical bodies, the covenant will never end...
  6. Karolina

    Circumcision - why exactly?

    Ok, so in all honesty, I hear a lot of circular reasoning - we circumcise because that's what Jews do (just because something has always been done doesn't mean it's a good reason to keep doing it... like say, slavery or withholding the vote from women). Or we circumcise so that no future...
  7. Karolina

    For people who are working to help reduce animosities and hostilities across belief divides

    I would also rephrase some of these like this: listen to others with an open curiosity, assuming you can and will learn something from the interaction if you only stay out of the way. I also found it very helpful back in college when we had to prepare for a debate by arguing in favor of the...
  8. Karolina

    For people who are working to help reduce animosities and hostilities across belief divides

    Gracious, this is a tall order, isn't it? I'm actually finding more and more divisions WITHIN religions, so can we really hope to reach out across religions? I mean, I think we can if we reach a critical mass of people of good will who share the values of understanding, mutual respect, an open...
  9. Karolina

    For people who are working to help reduce animosities and hostilities across belief divides

    This is something I've recently realized. Namely that while I assumed I shared all the basic values with the people at my place of worship, it's become more and more evident that I don't, essentially pushing me on another leg of my spiritual journey. But I've also found it impossible to find a...
  10. Karolina

    For people who are working to help reduce animosities and hostilities across belief divides

    Could you give an example of what you mean?
  11. Karolina

    For people who are working to help reduce animosities and hostilities across belief divides

    I'm sorry I haven't been able to read through all the responses yet but I didn't want to forget what I wanted to share. I recently learned that it's now illegal for public schools to have "ugly Christmas sweater day" and similar non-religious but still hinting at Christianity winter holiday...
  12. Karolina

    Circumcision - why exactly?

    I am trying to understand why the removal of a healthy part of a human organ came to represent a covenant with God. I'm particularly interested in hearing from those of you who have a more Liberal and less literal understanding of the Scriptures, since I get that the latter would basically say...
  13. Karolina

    Religious announcements

    Ok I gotta ask.... Lord Krishna from the Jesus Christ superstore?
  14. Karolina

    spiritual people, how do you worship?

    These are very helpful questions, thank you!
  15. Karolina

    spiritual people, how do you worship?

    I know how religious people worship - according to the traditions of their religions. So as a Catholic, I know I've always felt like I worship God during Mass. I never really considered personal prayers or devotions as "worship" for some reason, but I now have reason to believe that I've had...
  16. Karolina

    Spiritual but not religious

    Jim, yes in my experience with Franciscans and Jesuits, I've had major aha moments. For instance, in my old Franciscan church I asked an older priest if the Old Testament figures were literally historical. He said that Abraham "probably was", but not before. Then recently I had my (now)...
  17. Karolina

    Spiritual but not religious

    Thanks. In an ideal world, I'd like to be able to talk to people who are familiar with Catholic practices and traditions but allow individuals to have their own interpretations without shaming them. As it stands now, if I raise an unorthodox opinion, I'm told that it's "not Catholic" and pretty...
  18. Karolina

    Spiritual but not religious

    I know it sounds counter intuitive, but boundaries bring freedom to move within them, they bring a sense of safety, of knowing what is right and what is wrong. It's not freedom to just do whatever I want, that'll end badly. It's more freedom to act than freedom from limitations that I seek.
  19. Karolina

    Liberal Catholic Church

    I'm talking about a church not in Union with the Roman Catholic Church. The Liberal Catholic Church is not under the authority of the Pope. It's confusing, I know, bc there are also Roman Catholics who consider themselves Liberal (or conservative) politically or in terms of how much they follow...
  20. Karolina

    Liberal Catholic Church

    I feel weird just saying it bc it seems so obvious but sadly I have codependence issues and so I actually need this: I mean that this church does not insist that it's members all believe the same way about God. In the Roman Catholic Church, for instance, we recite the Nicene Creed at every Mass...
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