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    A Modest Proposal For Christians: Iscariot Day

    That's an interesting take on it. Thanks for sharing.
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    All You Christians Out There, Explain This One To Me

    Yes! He did what none of the others could do. That makes him the hero. Weird that he is the most hated hero in all of myth..... but I guess someone has to be there. I thought the recently discovered Gospel of Judas was fascinating as well. A lot of scholars looked into it including Elaine...
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    Atheists: Would you like to believe in God if there was good evidence for God?

    Your religion is just another version of the Mormon idea. Been there, done that. If it makes you happy then you are in the right religion. I wish you well in it, as for me, I shall continue worshipping God by living my life.... if God wants me to know something he can talk to me anytime, if he...
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    A Question for Theists...

    There was, but it was suppressed according to Raphael Patai, The Hebrew Goddess. Just one of many scholars who has discussed this concept. The Old Testament is more involved with it, but there are hints in the New Testament as well.
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    A Question for Theists...

    Very clever! I saw what you did there. Zen anyone?
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    All You Christians Out There, Explain This One To Me

    I well remember the first time I watched and heard Joseph Campbell in his series The Power of Myth describe Judas as the midwife of our salvation. That just struck me like a ton of brick! Judas was not the bad guy, he helped birth humanity's salvation! Talk about an eye opening concept for me at...
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    Atheists: Would you like to believe in God if there was good evidence for God?

    Trailblazer You will never have anything to do with God first hand because God is concealed from ordinary human beings. There is always a Mediator in between and even they do not see God first hand. Then I am not interested in that particular God.... I think the Vedanta doctrine is vastly more...
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    Atheists: Would you like to believe in God if there was good evidence for God?

    This is a Western bias however. The Chinese, Taoists, Zen practitioners, Vedanta and Buddhists (representing well over 1,000,000,000 human beings) don't have this take on religion. The idea of messengers is a human invention. It's why its unconvincing to the majority of the world. I don't eat...
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    Brahma (God), meaning and origin (ethmology) on word.

    Very interesting. I have been studying a bit more in all this which is quite a jolt for me at this point in my life. Your explanation is helpful.
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    Atheists: Would you like to believe in God if there was good evidence for God?

    But that is a mere human assumption that God has OUR best interests in mind. Earlier you said there is NO ACCESS to the UNknowable God. Then you have no possible idea what God wants or thinks. It's all a guess and shot in the dark. Follow your own claims and their logic and see how come it is so...
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    Atheists: Would you like to believe in God if there was good evidence for God?

    When I finally become what I already am I will have that. For now I am a seeking agnostic as I have already said. Even with messengers? Then why pay attention to what they say about God when they also cannot possibly know... if we can't have access, then neither can anyone else, including...
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    Atheists: Would you like to believe in God if there was good evidence for God?

    They do not have control over us when we freely choose to ignore them either and have our own knowledge and access to God. They are truly superfluous...... they are just not needed in order to have knowledge of God. They are an extra on the set. It is a clumsy adaptation of humans to invent the...
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    Atheists: Would you like to believe in God if there was good evidence for God?

    I simply don't believe this. It leaves us helpless and with a third party in-between us and God. It smells of human invention to me in order for so-called messengers to have power over us. There is no only one way to God through someone else who is human. I honestly just don't believe it at all.
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    Atheists: Would you like to believe in God if there was good evidence for God?

    The ONLY way? I think that's being a little bit arrogant honestly. Doesn't this presume you have tried all ways and this "only" way is the one that works alone? But we know we cannot possibly even live long enough to try all ways, so therefore this appears to be on the proud side of things, not...
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    Atheists: Would you like to believe in God if there was good evidence for God?

    Thanks! I shall take a look at it...
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    Atheists: Would you like to believe in God if there was good evidence for God?

    Buddhism simply cuts to the chase and says we all are the Divine only don't recognize it. That is what Zen attempts to do for us. Separateness is the illusion based on which level of magnification we operate under. Again, Alan Watts is quite fascinating on these things to consider. His book...
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    Atheists: Would you like to believe in God if there was good evidence for God?

    I think Buddhism makes it much simpler and direct than all this hype about how many different natures man has. Man has only one nature, the Divine. Buddhism says of the Ground of all Being, Brahman, Thou Art That. That makes vastly more economic sense than coming up with all kinds of different...
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    Atheists: Would you like to believe in God if there was good evidence for God?

    I don't believe any of that, so it's not satisfactory evidence to me. Sorry. No offense intended.
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    Atheists: Would you like to believe in God if there was good evidence for God?

    I have been reading Alan Watts some this year, and he is in a similar line as this. Though he would include mankind in the category of having a universal mind, only we don't know it, hence the reason Zen is such a direct discipline to wake us up. There appears to be no reason to split hairs and...
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    Atheists: Would you like to believe in God if there was good evidence for God?

    God doing this Himself/Herself would be vastly superior to this man made excuse for why he doesn't. Messengers are so infantile a way for God to proceed that it appears to me to be utterly inept on His/Her part. It truly makes no sense whatsoever to me. I come out of Mormonism, and believe me...
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