Hi @InChrist
No, those who reject the Son have rejected the Father and so the Father rejects them. But to take the matter further, not everyone who accepts the Son will be accepted either...
Scripture talks of a minority of the faithful being taken to be with the Father, not every believer...
Justice & Mercy
There’s a Standard of Justice our Creator has made,
But we all fall short of it, to some degree every day.
These violations stack quickly and are never resolved,
Until Judgment Day comes and we’ll pay with our soul.
But there’s a Gift of Mercy our Creator has planned,
He’ll...
As you see it. You seem certain in your view, based upon the Scriptures you provided. Therefore, I see no need to discuss it further. You have the answers you need.
Yes, I can see that. Sorry to disappoint you.
Peace
Hi @nPeace
I’ve had a look through your posts, points, arguments and questions and it seems that ultimately the root of different views hinge on the perspective of the books outside of the Canon.
I can fully understand and appreciate why you are cautious of the books outside the Canon. There...
That’s not technically accurate. The Apostle Jude clearly references 1 Enoch. (Jude 1:14-15 and 1 Enoch 1:9). What then, was Jude not inspired? It’s in your canon. The Messiah practically quotes 2 Esdras verbatim (Matthew 23:37-38 and 2 Esdras 30:34). Will you concede that as a possibility...
Really? I'd be interested to hear your citations for these contradictions?
Do you mean what I'm saying about the soul being the seat of the emotions? That is a well-established definition, if you look into word studies on the original Hebrew word Nephesh.
If you would like to study more on...
Hi @nPeace
I'm not sure where I have gathered a lot of the information on Sheol as it's spread throughout the Bible and several removed books - namely, 2 Esdras, 1 Enoch, Jubilees and I believe and handful of others. 2 Esdras and 1 Enoch have the most information on Sheol though so they would...
Hi @Frank Goad
Hades is the Greek word used for the original Hebrew "Sheol". This has been erroneously translated as "the grave" in many Bibles.
Sheol is the realm of the dead, where all the dead depart to ahead of Judgment Day. This is the realm that the Messiah was talking about.
Here is...
Hmm, I'm not sure where you are struggling to see my point here.
My answer to you (that is, my first answer) is Psalm 2. This Psalm speaks of the Son.
So here Yahushua is described as the son. A "subordinate" role as you may put it. As a son is never equal to or before a father (though he may...
Psalm 2 is my first answer which I would like for you to counter please.
But were you implying the son mentioned in Psalm 2 is not the Son of God? Forgive me if I have misunderstood. However it's best to clear up our point of view on this Scripture before jumping to another.
Well there is nothing that says "president" but I'm sure you understand that I was using an analogy.
But as for the difference between Yahweh and His Son, have a read through Psalm 2.
If you can explain how Yahweh and His Son are the same person in this Psalm (as I believe you are proposing)...
I appreciate your concern, but what I've learned and shared is from the Word of God and I have peace upon as that message is harmonised throughout. It's important to unlearn church traditions and church understanding when it conflicts with Scripture.
Peace.
Hi @Faithofchristian
Great questions and good point.
Yahushua is indeed the Son of Yahweh, according to His own words, the words of the prophets and of the Apostles.
And consider this, if Yahushua was the Father (as I think you're proposing), then who was He praying to in the Garden of...
Ah, apologies my friend. I seemed to have confused you on the matter because of my poor explanation.
So let's break it down...
At the top, you have the Most High being - Yahweh, who we call God. Yahweh's right hand man or first governing power immediate after Him is His Son - Yahushua...
Thanks for the comment @firedragon
I can see why you think that but it's only contradicting depending on your view of oneness.
For example, we are told that when a man takes a wife they become one in the eyes of God. Yet they are clearly two separate people.
Or consider a President and...
Hey @nPeace
Sheol is mentioned throughout the Bible. It's often translated into English poorly as "the grave" or even as "hell" in the KJV. Yeshua even speaks about Sheol in quite some detail in Luke 16:19-31, but the mainstream church seems to refuse to acknowledge it.
Yes, I also read the...
Hi @nPeace
So Samuel was dead by our realm's reckoning.
When we die our soul goes deep into the heart of the earth into a place called Sheol (Hades in Greek). Sheol is divided into different sections depending on the life you led but all will be resurrected from Sheol one day, the good and...
Well not really the "second one", but the first offspring of the principal one.
I believe Yahweh uses the terms Father and Son so that we can understand the matter in our terms.
I hope that helps.
Thanks for asking. I see three possibilities.
The first possibility is that she just called the name, perhaps like "...Samuel whom this man seeks". Then when she saw it was Samuel the prophet she put two and two together.
The second possibility is that she knew who she was calling forth and...