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  1. MJFlores

    COL 2:16 And The Sabbath - Are You Being Told The Truth?

    The thing about the Sabbath is it is an OLD testament commandment. Is it for all people to follow? Exodus 31:13 New International Version (NIV) “Say to the Israelites, ‘You must observe my Sabbaths. This will be a sign between me and you for the generations to come, so you may know that I am...
  2. MJFlores

    COL 2:16 And The Sabbath - Are You Being Told The Truth?

    You know that is pretty tasking to know what you mean by the verses you throw JAMES 2:10-11; 1 JOHN 3:4; ROMANS 7:7 ROMANS 6:23 HEBREWS 10:26-39 ACTS 17:30-31 and fail to interpret them. You have said: And now you want to back track from your statement? The laws for the Russians are for...
  3. MJFlores

    COL 2:16 And The Sabbath - Are You Being Told The Truth?

    So you are telling us You should not worship God on a SUNDAY because it is a sin! Is that a fact?
  4. MJFlores

    COL 2:16 And The Sabbath - Are You Being Told The Truth?

    You still want to discuss the no longer existing Sabbath, fine with me. So how do you Sabbath lovers observe Sabbath? What are the things you do and do not do? Do you work on Sabbath days? Supposing you are a nurse in the hospital and you are required to work on Saturdays Should you work or not?
  5. MJFlores

    COL 2:16 And The Sabbath - Are You Being Told The Truth?

    He broke the non existent Sabbath Because God ended the Sabbath a long time ago. Even before Jesus was born 586–520 BCE Lamentations 2:5-6 Good News Translation (GNT) Like an enemy, the Lord has destroyed Israel; He has left her forts and palaces in ruins. He has brought on the people...
  6. MJFlores

    COL 2:16 And The Sabbath - Are You Being Told The Truth?

    We don't have a Sabbath. Next Sabbaths are for the Israelites, you are not one and nobody is. Being an Israelite requires that your ancestors were from Israel and became slaves. A genuine Israelite has an Israelite passport, not an Israeli one Mind you, I love to take a bath but not a Sabbath...
  7. MJFlores

    COL 2:16 And The Sabbath - Are You Being Told The Truth?

    What is the memorable verse he said that you like me to react on? Because as far as I am concerned there was nothing there for me to react. However I gave you all Sabbath enthusiasts a verse which you all ignored. And the verse was: John 5:16-17 New International Version (NIV) So, because...
  8. MJFlores

    COL 2:16 And The Sabbath - Are You Being Told The Truth?

    Maybe its Catholic dogma of making Sunday their Sabbath. But for me and the church I belong which is the Church of Christ, we believe that the Sabbath is an old testament commandment which the Lord Jesus Christ broke by working on a Sabbath
  9. MJFlores

    COL 2:16 And The Sabbath - Are You Being Told The Truth?

    I did read them. It is just too many that it did not hit a thing. Or probably I am just like Neo
  10. MJFlores

    COL 2:16 And The Sabbath - Are You Being Told The Truth?

    It would be better to on one or three verse than send of too many verses when most of it are just duds Isn't it true that the Lord God already made the new covenant as he promised in Jeremiah 31:31? And isn't it true that the Lord Jesus is the one mediating this new covenant? Hebrews 9:15...
  11. MJFlores

    COL 2:16 And The Sabbath - Are You Being Told The Truth?

    Did Jesus Christ and his disciples observe the Sabbath? Wasn't he accused of by the Pharisees of breaking the Sabbath? I rather read this from the Bible. Matthew 12:1-2 New International Version (NIV) At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and...
  12. MJFlores

    COL 2:16 And The Sabbath - Are You Being Told The Truth?

    Sorry.... @Crosstian just made me dizzy.... That happens to me when I see too many... My position is Sabbath is no longer and should no longer be practiced because: The Lord Jesus Christ broke it and declared himself as the Lord of the Sabbath The apostles of Jesus also did not observe and...
  13. MJFlores

    COL 2:16 And The Sabbath - Are You Being Told The Truth?

    When the Lord Jesus Christ walked the earth, there were plenty of Israelites in Israel. All of them are Israelites - Jesus and his apostles, the Pharisees, the Saducees, Barabas, Judas every a-ho in Israel were Israelites. Everybody John 1:47; Acts 2:22 But where are they now? I can see...Gal...
  14. MJFlores

    COL 2:16 And The Sabbath - Are You Being Told The Truth?

    This is what I know about Israel. I believe God divorced Israel as he declared in: Jeremiah 3:8 New International Version (NIV) I gave faithless Israel her certificate of divorce and sent her away because of all her adulteries. Yet I saw that her unfaithful sister Judah had no fear; she also...
  15. MJFlores

    COL 2:16 And The Sabbath - Are You Being Told The Truth?

    How many unexplained verses are there in this post #15? Anyway, I have to agree that there is no Jew and Gentile in the Church of Christ and that is in the Bible: Galatians 3:26-29 New International Version (NIV) So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, for all of...
  16. MJFlores

    COL 2:16 And The Sabbath - Are You Being Told The Truth?

    Lots and lots of verses. It would be nice to have 2 or 3. How does it feel like if you have a table full of spaghetti? So what tribe of ISRAEL are you? Do you consider yourself an Israelite? What passport do you carry? You really observe the Sabbath? Are you willing to kill people who do not...
  17. MJFlores

    Did Jesus Commit Suicide?

    In my opinion, it is erroneous to say that Jesus committed suicide. It is without doubt that the Lord Jesus Christ mentioned to his disciples that he would be killed Matthew 16:21 Matthew 17:22-23 New International Version (NIV) When they came together in Galilee, he said to them, “The Son of...
  18. MJFlores

    Man made traditions from the Church or the Word of God - Who do you believe and follow?

    The Sabbath does not apply to the people today. The Sabbath applies only to the Israelites. The Sabbath does not even apply to Israelis. You have quoted the verse which proves that the Sabbath is passe: Colossians 2:16-17 New Living Translation (NLT) So don’t let anyone condemn you for what...
  19. MJFlores

    COL 2:16 And The Sabbath - Are You Being Told The Truth?

    Sure the covenant made with God and the Israelites is indeed everlasting. That covenant has Moses and the Levite priests, as its mediators. But it is between the Israelites, Definitely not with Americans, not Filipinos, not Canadians, not Mexicans, not with Europeans, not with Africans. It is...
  20. MJFlores

    Man made traditions from the Church or the Word of God - Who do you believe and follow?

    Hosea 2:11 Contemporary English Version (CEV) I’ll stop Israel’s celebrations— no more New Moon Festivals, Sabbaths, or other feasts. Who was talking? It was God who was talking What's up? He said he will stop all Israel's celebrations Including what? The Sabbath When did it happen? When...
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