Yup.
No one wants to talk about the fact that I'm an A-footbalist. But if someone wants to use that term to define me, and since it's technically true, I'm happy to further clarify the title for accuracy.
(For the record, what I think people mean to say when they refer to Atheism as a religion...
...because definitions are important in communication.
If we are both to going to label me an Atheist, then it's important that I define what I mean when I use that title and it's important for me to know what you mean when you use the word in reference to me.
The same is true for any...
The self is a construct that consists of influences from your surrounding culture, society, and ego, formed over long periods of time.
It's a very fluid thing, yet we oddly take pride in who we are, saying things like "This is just who I am."
"Why would you expect me to be any other way?"
That's what I'm talking about!
This is much better conversation.
I do not necessarily agree that there has to be a "first" anything. I would argue that all things simply are, and that things experience various avenues of change over time. A rock exists today. There was a time when that rock...
I believe that I exist, though I do not believe that I am a god, inspite of the fact that I can create, reject, have joy, be jealous, command, influence, kill, etc... The fact that some might view me as a god does not necessarily mean that I am a theist, does it?
Why would God be any different?
Yes. I understand the claim and your position.
I'm asking you to extrapolate just a little bit. Unpack it, and go a little further with your reasoning. See if your current argument really holds up in a conversation about "why" you can entertain one idea but not another.
There are lots of...
He's asking you a very reasonable philosophical question.
If the Creator can create itself (or needs no creator), why can't anything else?
Would you scoff if he said that the Universe created itself (or needed no creator)?
If you can't apply an argument consistently, then it's a bad argument.
If you want to really break it down, none of us actually know anything at all. We're all just guessing at random scenarios and then arguing about them to no end...
So why are we even here?
How would your aforementioned scenario be any different than a non-existent god?
Imagine both outcomes - a god who exists but cannot be evidenced, and no gods existing.
What is the difference?
Guns are ******. That's why people don't want to them "banned."
They're awesome. And people like them. All other arguments are secondary to that fact.
Guns are also dangerous as $hit! They make crazy people more effective at doing crazy things. And since we have some serious societal problems...
In all fairness, it's just as possible that any fanciful thing exists, isn't it?
The logic you're using here is just as valid for any objectively ambiguous entity. So why do you have a problem with Atheists, but not people who reject the existence of Fairies, Gnomes, Mirror People, or Ancient...
For what it's worth, I also believe that no gods exist. I do not argue the accuracy of that point, however, because it's nigh impossible.
So you aren't alone.
We simply have to admit that we cannot fully support this claim, which admittedly goes one step further, in the same way that we...
Not to start this thing off entirely combative, but I think this is a bad implementation of Pascal's wager. All humans, running the gambit from Atheist to Theist, derive value systems from somewhere. You're assuming that positive value systems can only come from Theology, and that's demonstrably...
Unless you have some evidence to support your claim, then you're just logical fallacying and wishfully thinking all over the place!!
You can't prove that it's NOT a Martian Sasquatch that just looks like a mermaid.
No, you fool! It's an eroded sculpture of Sasquatch from the Ancient Civilization that NASA knows about but won't share with the public because it would be too dangerous! Luckily my friend Brian is a hacker and pulled these raw images directly from the deep web, to help unleash our minds.