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  1. Sir Doom

    Challenge for atheists, worship Satan.

    I don't let Satan wear the pants in our relationship. He worships me.
  2. Sir Doom

    What is a real God?

    Wanting it isn't enough, you also have to convince others. That's a difficult task when you think about it. In most cases you will need to demonstrate something 'godlike'. And since we all have differing ideas as to what that means, there are still no garauntees it will work. Appearing as a...
  3. Sir Doom

    Questions for Atheists and Agnostics

    They wouldn't. They'd be liars or mistaken. As it is, I have to take their word for it. I do not. And the sheep that flees the shepherd's care may be lost in the wilderness, but it will also avoid the slaughter or fleecing as the case may be. Do you just not get that this is circular...
  4. Sir Doom

    Questions for Atheists and Agnostics

    I understand that the God you speak of is the omni-God, but when you listed possibilities for God's communication methods you offered that one possibility is that God does not exist. If that is one possibility, then surely short of that would be that God isn't actually omnipotent and isn't...
  5. Sir Doom

    What is a real God?

    As previously stated, it hinges entirely upon how the being considers itself as well as how it wishes us (anyone) to consider it and it's relative ability to enable that consideration. What other qualities it must have to 'be God' only matter when it comes to convincing others, and that will be...
  6. Sir Doom

    What is a real God?

    I would like to expand on 'conviction' from my previous answer. For a being to convince me that it was God (or a god, as the case may be) it would have to go quite a long way. It would have to prove to me somehow that it was, at the very least, responsible for life on Earth. In part or in...
  7. Sir Doom

    Might makes Right

    How about curiosity? Might the almighty allow some of that? Even now perhaps?
  8. Sir Doom

    Might makes Right

    How about flattered? Should I try that (again)?
  9. Sir Doom

    Might makes Right

    I see, and I suppose I would have to agree on that. The only point I would make is we often decide what is right or wrong after the fact (when power has already dictated what will happen) or long before in abstraction as we are now (when power only exists in words). When tested, our moral...
  10. Sir Doom

    Questions for Atheists and Agnostics

    You must have me confused with someone else. I don't believe in that God. I can hypothetically discuss the being in question, of course. For the purpose of this thread, I most certainly have done that. The discussion between Trailblazer and I has many facets, though. I'm not arguing about...
  11. Sir Doom

    Might makes Right

    Your point seems to be that some things are inherently wrong since we all generally agree about them. Did I get that incorrect? It's meant to be honest. I'm no moral compass, but I have power. Everyone does. I don't see people enacting their will through rightness, only through power. I do...
  12. Sir Doom

    Questions for Atheists and Agnostics

    Why do you think that? I didn't realize you were privy to God's perspective. You must be one of these messengers Trailblazer is talking about. Or perhaps you are just another one of the messengers I'm talking about. I'm leaning towards the latter, to be honest.
  13. Sir Doom

    Questions for Atheists and Agnostics

    I don't insist that God is not omnipotent, only that it's possible God isn't. I don't restrain God's nature at all. I have no idea what God's nature is. How could I insist either way? How do you figure that?
  14. Sir Doom

    Might makes Right

    As you see it, yes. I didn't mean it literally. I meant from your perspective.
  15. Sir Doom

    Questions for Atheists and Agnostics

    @Trailblazer regarding messengers: When I say someone speaks for God I mean that they tell me something of God's nature that they couldn't possibly know without some sort of esoteric revelation. As the revelation is not apparent, and none of these 'facts' has ever held up to rigorous...
  16. Sir Doom

    Might makes Right

    No. There is no such thing as right. All of these things happen regardless of your notions of right and wrong. Is rape okay when it happens in prison to a child molester? If not, then we should stop putting them in prison because it is going to happen regardless. Just a small example of society...
  17. Sir Doom

    Questions for Atheists and Agnostics

    My point is that omnipotence is not a given. Hypothetically speaking God only needs to have been responsible for us humans (directly or indirectly) in order to qualify for the title. Everything beyond that is just extra power we imagine to put one God over another. Consider that God would not...
  18. Sir Doom

    Evidence of God existence

    Me.
  19. Sir Doom

    Questions for Atheists and Agnostics

    Hypothetically speaking if a being comes to you and says, "I am God." Then you say, "Oh you created everything!" And it says, "No, but I did create all of you." Call this being a wimp if you like.
  20. Sir Doom

    Questions for Atheists and Agnostics

    Exactly. Thus, the messenger is qualifying themselves. That shatters all hope of trust from me, sad to say. No, I can determine if I believe the messenger or not. Which I can do without ever speaking to them. Self-qualification is the most erroneous of appeals to authority imaginable. Or...
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