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  1. CG Didymus

    Legitimate reasons not to believe in God

    Baha'is seem to try and wiggle out of this by claiming that thing about God not wanting robots... that he gave people freewill to choose to love him. In spite of him not be willing to prevent evil and suffering. And then what's the claim? That those things are good? That they test those that...
  2. It Aint Necessarily So

    Legitimate reasons not to believe in God

    ...each human being personally." Here are a few statements of the problem: "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then...
  3. InChrist

    Throw Grandma in Jail and Throw Away the Key?

    That is a favorite verse atheists or others who like to denigrate God, pull out of context to say something it doesn’t say. First, the entirety of the scriptures declare God to be Holy, Righteous, Pure, Good... so there would not be one verse saying God creates moral evil which is completely...
  4. Brian2

    Why God allows Evil

    For me it is a matter of trusting God. This faith also brings with it an understanding of the scriptures which give satisfactory answers to the problems you pose, but these answers are not acceptable to those who do not have faith.
  5. It Aint Necessarily So

    Why God allows Evil

    Humanists see their values as good for society and Christian values as harmful. You can understand why people who feel that way want exactly what you described here, but in reverse. The antitheist agrees that he shouldn't allow Christian values to prevail through lack of action. Look at what...
  6. Estro Felino

    Why God allows Evil

    In this world, death exists. Suffering exists. Illness exists. We can try to prevent suffering, but we cannot avoid death. God is not of this world. He belongs to the other world, which has neither space nor time. So we cannot blame God for all that happens in this worldly dimension. Man has...
  7. blü 2

    Why God allows Evil

    I'd say it was a distinct argument. The child has a problem it can't be blamed for. Its individual survival is at stake. Any ordinarily moral onlooker would help. And the only free will involved is God's. As Epicurus is said to have said, Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then...
  8. blü 2

    Why God allows Evil

    My argument along these lines would be somewhat different. (The argument attributed to Epicurus said it long before I did, of course.) Why would God sit on [his] omnipotent hands and watch an innocent child drown? No one's free will is involved, and any moral and able person would do what they...
  9. BrightShadow

    The “naturalist” Problem of Suffering

    It only remains in the heads of people who don't know how to think beyond the box. Some people put themselves in a box and just don't know how to get out of it. They think with one-track mind and just don't know how to reason via critical thinking! Why not? :rolleyes: I solved it! Do I get a...
  10. BrightShadow

    The “naturalist” Problem of Suffering

    In the context of the thread - maybe - BUT not in my scenario! In my scenario - there is a reason God is choosing not to intervene. When there is a valid reason - your context, your claim and your demand are all nullified! Like I said earlier - God's kingdom is like an ocean and if he has a...
  11. Sheldon

    The “naturalist” Problem of Suffering

    ...is that Epicurus solved it centuries before humans created Christianity. “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then...
  12. Trailblazer

    Questions that believers cannot answer

    Hypothetically speaking, an omnipotent could act to prevent bad things from happening, but if God stopped all of what we consider 'bad things' from happening that would upset all the order in the world, which is based upon human free will choices causing things to happen. That said, God might...
  13. stvdv

    Why One God

    However, I see 1 huge flaw in this reasoning, which makes it totally invalid
  14. Jainarayan

    Why One God

    ...creator God is the problem of evil and suffering. Per Hume’s argument "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then from whence comes evil?" When we accept the existence of...
  15. It Aint Necessarily So

    God is disproven by science? Really?

    Good video, but I was a little disappointed with the ending. At some point, the police need to tell Ken Spam that since nobody was there to witness the accident, nobody knows what happened, any theory of the crime is as valid as any other if nobody witnessed it, we just can't know what happened...
  16. Sheldon

    There is no evidence for God, so why do you believe?

    ...summed up by Epicurus, centuries before Jesus us purported to have lived. "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then...
  17. HonestJoe

    Atheists: If God existed would God……

    That's essentially where I'm coming from too, I just don't see any reason to accept any of the proposed attributes. I also think it does raise questions about the attributes you do happen to believe, especially in the context of things you say God can't/wouldn't do. There is still a fundamental...
  18. Trailblazer

    Atheists: If God existed would God……

    Thanks for your understanding. :heart: I see no light at the end of the tunnel but nevertheless I must forge ahead. My husband’s health issues are more than physical, they are also psychological, so I am fighting two battles and they have been going on for a long time. They only recently...
  19. HonestJoe

    Atheists: If God existed would God……

    I'm truly sorry to hear that and hope things improve for you. I have long-term health issues myself so can totally understand. :heart: The problem is when religious people (not just Baha'i) say that God is beyond our understanding then go on to explain all the things they understand about God...
  20. Sgt. Pepper

    "No evidence of God" = Is a bad argument against God

    According to the Bible, God is omniscient (Psalm 139:1-6; Isaiah 46:9-10; 1 John 3:20), omnipotent (Psalm 147:5; Job 42:2; Daniel 2:21), and omnipresent (Psalm 139:7-10; Isaiah 40:12; Colossians 1:17). If the Bible is accurate, then God has the infinite power to prevent people from killing each...
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