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    “Common sense” question for an evolutionist

    I often notice that evolutionists seem awfully eager to inject the subject of God into the chat. In my last post, the only hint of that subject was in my one use of the word “created.” Is this the reason you brought up the mention of God? No, I did not realize that in my comment I in effect...
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    “Common sense” question for an evolutionist

    My contention is that I have not made an error. Those errors which you are expecting me to acknowledge are only the tenets of the evolutionary idea itself. I hold the view that the vast sampling of plant and animal life did not derive from one common speck of life (or ultimately from non-life)...
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    “Common sense” question for an evolutionist

    Sorry SubZone, my different replies to various posters got crossed up. My partial note about it “being a drag” was an in-progress comment to another poster who thought it important to speculate about who is a seventh grader. Yes, we hold opposing ideas about this subject, and I enjoy stating my...
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    “Common sense” question for an evolutionist

    The long and short In all kindness, it’s a real turn-off to read comments whic To state that it was “slow and gradual” is to acknowledge we were not there to observe it, and this what evolutionary thought finds convenient. It comes down to a trust that it occurred.
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    “Common sense” question for an evolutionist

    Agreed! Animals change for a variety of reasons, environmentally and otherwise. What you describe is observed and known, and undeniable. But what you, and evolution, implies - - that this change naturally continues to the point that entirely different animals are produced - - is not being...
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    “Common sense” question for an evolutionist

    Thanks for the comments. The data you mention in the 3 animal examples is indeed data. But it’s data which describes they way those particular animals function, and nothing more. Very true that different animals access their oxygen in a variety of ways. But this fact does not inherently promote...
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    Flight Evolution in Birds

    Jose, I want to thank you for your generous time. Much appreciated! Everything you have contributed has been pretty much what I’m looking for. A general question, if you happen to have an opinion... What would you say is your primary drive in swaying any creationist over to the evolutionary...
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    Flight Evolution in Birds

    Thanks again for your notes. As odd as this might sound, I’m not really asking/demanding evidence such as is typically available. I’ve found it more intriguing to focus on elements of reason and logic. You may choose to call it fear which keeps the creationist from attempting to form their...
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    Flight Evolution in Birds

    Wow, you’re quick! and very generous with the many links. This is a clear reminder to me that I stand as the obvious underdog:) with so much evolutionary material at instant disposal. Using the first example (finch), this is an account of observed change within the specific animal. But it’s not...
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    Flight Evolution in Birds

    Yes, I recall an earlier posting which elaborated a bit more on this idea (pasted below): (( “I like to point out that in evolution there is no "change of kind". All of your offspring will always be human beings, no matter how much they evolve. But let's work backwards. You share a common...
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    Flight Evolution in Birds

    New animal, meaning different animal. An animal that flies is a different animal from one which does not fly. This is what I meant by “new.” I used the word “impose” only because you used that word to begin with. I figured that if I did not respond with that specific word, you may find issue...
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    Flight Evolution in Birds

    There is evidence that animals can and do change, but not to the extent that new animals result. Regarding the work of the paleontologist: Yes, obviously so.. evolutionary-thinking paleontologists often impose an evolutionary interpretation upon the newly discovered finds (at least as far as it...
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    Flight Evolution in Birds

    Thank you! ...duly noted. My point of intrigue centers on the comment, “if the mutation confers a survival advantage...” Will pick up on this later.. Happy day to all.
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    Flight Evolution in Birds

    Thanks for this thorough bit of info. One thing pops into my head.. As we know, birds are very effective and efficient in their flight due to the fact that their bones are much lighter, because they are hollow. It appears that one of two things had to occur in the supposed evolution to birds...
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    Flight Evolution in Birds

    Yes, you’re right.. these scientists do go about their work, but they don’t “come to” their conclusions. Their conclusions are already determined. The work they go about is a continual search for validation of an evolutionary world view and an evolutionary mindset. They are looking for pieces...
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    Flight Evolution in Birds

    As I’m sure you presume (and correctly so), my religious belief is tied directly to an acknowledgment of a mind greater than human intellect (i.e. the God of the Bible, and creator of all we see). And while the Bible does state clearly how life came to be, this is not at all a sole reason for my...
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    Flight Evolution in Birds

    Sorry to all for my delays.. very busy with stuff.. I wish I was in the position to reply instantaneously, as it appears most of you are able to do. (hey, you folks aren’t getting paid to chat it up, are you?? LOL) Plus, I receive 3+ replies to each of my 1 comments, so it pretty quickly...
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    Flight Evolution in Birds

    Thanks for the follow up. When I have some more time, I’d like to start with a fresh thought, to look at a scenario that I think could interest us both.. if you’d like.
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    Flight Evolution in Birds

    I’m not sure that if I chose a specific number, I would be giving you a satisfactory response. This overall section of our discussion is creeping into a muddy area, and I’m not sure if it’s getting us anywhere Should I say 6500 years, because I subscribe to the young earth view? (Of course...
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    Flight Evolution in Birds

    This fellow does a great job! He knows how to present his info. Interesting to watch! The animation visual of the growth of the feather was very cool, and I’m sure the facts are right on track. No reason to doubt it at all. But that, along with the amazing slo-mo videos of the wing action of...
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