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    Flight Evolution in Birds

    Sure, fast-breeding organisms exist, but we are not watching evolution occur. It’s a leap to compare this lab testing to speculated animal evolution. Agreed, we can built models, to predict how similar but larger constructs will behave. That ‘s a good point in and of itself, but not sure if it...
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    Flight Evolution in Birds

    Good points... agreed
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    Flight Evolution in Birds

    I’m not suggesting that our search for truth in this matter needs to be limited to what we can visualize. I’m only suggesting that it could and should be done.
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    Flight Evolution in Birds

    When it takes, say, a million generations for a new, differently functioning animal to become established, what sort of evolution are you talking about being observed in the lab today?
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    Flight Evolution in Birds

    Regarding how birds came to be... I think it’s good to try to visualize the scenario which had to occur those many years ago, when that non-flying animal produced the infinitesimal beginnings of eventual flight. This is what I mean by “reasoning it out.” If it did occur, then it ought to make...
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    Flight Evolution in Birds

    Not at all. I only commented on the time frame of the supposed evolution of birds.
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    Flight Evolution in Birds

    Yes, that’s what I was saying. Most people (the masses, in my wording) adhere to evolution; they don’t accept the idea that birds were created with flying ability intact.
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    Flight Evolution in Birds

    Well, since I reject the evolutionary slant as a plausible explanation Well, since I reject the evolutionary slant, that leaves me with the creation view, which I think offers the plausible explanation - - for the intricacies of bird flight, and more. (By the way, I personally consider the...
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    Flight Evolution in Birds

    The origin of birds is not answerable by scientific method. It cannot be because involves something that (supposedly) happened long ago, and so it does not qualify for something to be proved or disproved scientifically. It’s being continually studied of course, but it’s obviously still under...
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    Flight Evolution in Birds

    Yes, I would love to have a better understanding of how lots of animals came to be. But not everything can be “answered” by the scientific method. You can tell me more about the “other means” you mentioned. Scientific method is useful for some things, and best so when the subject of study can...
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    Flight Evolution in Birds

    Not quite sure I follow, Jose. Are you asking... do I thinks it’s possible to study the history (or specifically, the evolution of) birds through scientific means?
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    Flight Evolution in Birds

    A somewhat lengthy but interesting read about the marvel of bird flight.. might be worth a look. Designed To Fly
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    Flight Evolution in Birds

    Thanks Sayak! You’re kind to open this thread. I’m rather new to the forum, and honestly don’t use the “reply/quote” tools like you experts. But I’ll do my best. I actually just stumbled upon this thread today. For some reason, email notification didn’t come to me, but maybe it will do so after...
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    “Common sense” question for an evolutionist

    Hi Sayak, I’m eager to dive a little deeper with you into an evaluation of the “branch to branch” animals. Would you like to do that? Since this thread has become so long with a variety of tangent topics, could you begin a new thread with a copy/paste of your comment, and link me to that...
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    “Common sense” question for an evolutionist

    We will check it out! Thanks.. Long day ahead, I’ll reply asap
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    “Common sense” question for an evolutionist

    Call it bogus if you like, but readers of this thread are seeing a simple question going unaddressed. I’ll ask again: Did or did not a million generations of animals somehow survive with a heart that was neither 3-chambered or 4-chambered? I could state the answer you must give, but the readers...
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    “Common sense” question for an evolutionist

    Did not know that! Amazing! But what is this suppose to convince me of regarding evolution? Logic must still apply. What use is that lung when it is in a million different stages of incompleteness, in a million different fish? How did it slowly begin to function? Apply this reasoning to any...
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    “Common sense” question for an evolutionist

    Hi Polymath, Tom said that flying fish are an example of a creature that evolved straight from water to air. You say there’s no way to know. I guess I’d tend to concur with you. Thanks for the note about swim bladders evolving into lungs. I just quickly did a search and found this about swim...
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    “Common sense” question for an evolutionist

    Tom, (update for you) I did indeed confuse you with someone else (Subduction Zone jumped in and I did not realize it was not you). So, if you can scratch that portion of my comment, and get back to my inquiry about the “flying fish” questions, that would be super. (Sub. Zone.. i’m certainly...
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    “Common sense” question for an evolutionist

    Great to hear that you’re ok with continuing, because I certainly am! I do appreciate the info you’re passingly along. My apologies for leaving you with the notion that this is becoming contentious in any way. I’m really very eager to pursue this with simple straightforward questions, so if...
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