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  1. A-ManESL

    I need some understanding

    I would say it is possible to do it in the same way. Religions use the concept of God as a symbol to reach out to a Reality which may be reached without using the idea of God at all, such as in Buddhism.
  2. A-ManESL

    Different truths are not the same

    I don't understand why you can't just click on the link and read the examples :S. No I am not. You are welcome not to consider this statement authoritative. Even I said clearly I do not know whether it is true or not. If you haven't found a good reason yet, and believe you won't find a...
  3. A-ManESL

    Different truths are not the same

    What you call an equation may be represented by a mathematical statement about equality of two sets, and with proper meaning given to equality and other "symbols", mathematical statements may be represented as equations. In that sense any distinction between them is meaningless. At any rate...
  4. A-ManESL

    Different truths are not the same

    I don't think you understood clearly my point. Your statement "an equation in mathematics is either true or false and the conclusion is demonstrable." is wrong on two counts: 1. Firstly there are many statements which within a given mathematical system are neither true or false and cannot be...
  5. A-ManESL

    Different truths are not the same

    Do you mean that within a set of axioms and logic rules predefined it is possible to find mathematical truths. In that case, my reply is that it is indeed so, but there is no way one can be certain that it is a truth. As my link showed, there are many examples of proofs accepted for many years...
  6. A-ManESL

    Different truths are not the same

    I am not saying that mathematical guarantee is not absolutely true mathematically. I am saying that Theorem X may be wrong but people may think it is true. This is because mathematicians think it is true because people may have not found an error yet. I think I understand probability but here...
  7. A-ManESL

    Different truths are not the same

    I know it is phenomenally low and am in no way against this finding proof exercise (in fact I love it), but my point is mathematically speaking there is such a positive probability. In other words it is mathematics which tells us that we can never be sure that what we have proved is true...
  8. A-ManESL

    Different truths are not the same

    Apparently my point is not getting across clearly. I very well understand that kind of subjectivity but that is not what I referring to. As my link said even in an established proof later errors may be pointed out. It is subject to mathematicians approval that we accept certain results, which...
  9. A-ManESL

    Different truths are not the same

    The rules of deductive reasoning used in mathematics are not formed by an external scale but within the gambit of mathematics itself. These laws are therefore not independent of the current reasoning techniques in vogue. What guarantee is there that what we regard as proved today (eg Fermat's...
  10. A-ManESL

    Different truths are not the same

    I think that personal truth is just an extreme case of personal opinion and hence subjective. Logical or Mathematical truth is empirically empty and is dependent on subjective opinion (eg Euclidean geometry was "the" geometry until popular opinion changed) and scientific truth is also subjective...
  11. A-ManESL

    Critic on Islam

    If there isn't an egalitarian society it is against the principles taught by Muhammad(pbuh). The Muslim countries which are showing intolerance are not following these principles. Similar is the case was Christianity long back. For centuries Jews were discriminated against in Christian lands...
  12. A-ManESL

    Muslims do not worship the same god as the Christians

    No problem :)
  13. A-ManESL

    Modern education as a way to God

    The modern way of life starts with the a-priori assumption that the pursuit of happiness should be the purpose towards which all actions of a person must be oriented and focussed upon. Education forms an essential ingredient in achieving this goal. In fact, I would argue that the universal...
  14. A-ManESL

    The Debate of God.

    A better way to say what I mean is that "most" scientists are simply not expanding True knowledge as their efforts are directed cumulatively towards (1) self-gain and (2)superficial advances. The first point is contained in the article about Simone Weil and the second point in the quote by Nasr...
  15. A-ManESL

    The Debate of God.

    I am not saying that they give inaccurate results but that their work is often disjointed, often not really advancing in knowledge and in many cases just reformulating of the problem in a new wardrobe. New advances are made in natural science, but very often they are only percieved new because...
  16. A-ManESL

    The Debate of God.

    I never said that science is flawed, rather that the modern scientific approach towards Truth is flawed as opposed to what should be. My position is essentially supporting science in the proper way as a genuine understanding or path towards the Everlasting Reality. And if you read the article I...
  17. A-ManESL

    The Debate of God.

    That science is fundamentally different from religion is is one of the things on which my views have changed over the years. It is my firm opinion that this is a misunderstanding. I now hold the opinion that scientific method is one of the ways as well of acquiring God's knowledge (or rather...
  18. A-ManESL

    Abrogation in the Quran

    +1 to above.
  19. A-ManESL

    The Debate of God.

    Let me correct a possible misunderstanding. My initial post started with "the holy men and women tell us...blah blah...", so it was really their opinion I was presenting. As far as I am personally concerned I only have a "flimsy kind of knowledge" as I said before which is a feeling of...
  20. A-ManESL

    The Debate of God.

    I know what you are referring to. I believe this book (which I have been planning to read for some time now but havent read it yet) discusses it from a particular angle. In my path I don't primarily consider "emotional connections" but knowledge; and on treading the path this knowledge is...
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