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  1. Joe_Stocks

    NYT David Brooks makes good point

    Hi everybody, I was watcing Meet the Press last Sunday and during the roundtable discussion David Brooks said this: July 11: Robert Gibbs, roundtable - Meet the Press - Transcripts - msnbc.com MR. BROOKS: Yeah, I, I actually agree with that. I'm a little scared myself. You know, you...
  2. Joe_Stocks

    Ratcheting back a notch or two?

    I am wondering where this cautious tone was when Bush was compared to Hitler by lefty protesters. As a right-winger myself I believe the billboard is stupid, but I don't really care that it was put up.
  3. Joe_Stocks

    What Makes People Vote Republican?

    Hi Smoke, We are now denying reality. Canada's government doesn't withhold new life-saving and sustaining drugs from being covered by the government. Sticking your head in the sand won't solve anything. He is a rather colorful Florida congressman who you've been channeling with your moral...
  4. Joe_Stocks

    What Makes People Vote Republican?

    Hi Sunstone, It's a moral problem with socialized healthcare.
  5. Joe_Stocks

    What Makes People Vote Republican?

    Hi Sunstone, I'm not. However, many supporters of single-payer mistakenly believe that we have a free market for health insurance and healthcare and blame high medical costs on the 'for proft' healthcare system here.
  6. Joe_Stocks

    What Makes People Vote Republican?

    Hi Sunstone, See my last post (#75) and why are medical costs going up? What aspect of the evil free market is driving the cost of healthcare up?
  7. Joe_Stocks

    What Makes People Vote Republican?

    Hi Sunstone, You are also forgetting that the majority of drugs on the U.S. market today are generics, just copies of the expensive brand name drug after the patent protection runs out. So, the claim that these drugs are just lying around is false.
  8. Joe_Stocks

    What Makes People Vote Republican?

    Hi Smoke, So, you are just going to ignore the fact that in countries with socialized healthcare the government restricts the access to life-saving and sustaining drugs. And that we, in the U.S. have greater access to the most cutting edge pharmaceuticals on the market. Nice Alan...
  9. Joe_Stocks

    What Makes People Vote Republican?

    Hi Sunstone, Genetic fallacy. They are obviously available to more Americans than Canadians because the Canadian government restricts what drugs are available on the market there.
  10. Joe_Stocks

    What Makes People Vote Republican?

    Hi Sunstone, What gives you the impression that they are lying around?
  11. Joe_Stocks

    What Makes People Vote Republican?

    Hi Smoke, Barbara was failed by government-run healthcare. While her particular case may have not been salvaged in the free market, when you have government-run healthcare you have more Barbara Wagner's. Cheaper Doesn't Mean Better. Ask a Canadian (diabetes depression anxiety cholesterol...
  12. Joe_Stocks

    What Makes People Vote Republican?

    Hi Sunstone, It's not in theory, it is the truth. Cheaper Doesn't Mean Better. Ask a Canadian (diabetes depression anxiety cholesterol job) - Mombu the Medicine Forum To save funds, Canadian health officials delay the introduction of new and more expensive drugs. As a result it takes...
  13. Joe_Stocks

    What Makes People Vote Republican?

    Hi Smoke, So, you accept as a fact that Americans have greater access to life-saving and sustaining drugs than those in countries with socialized healthcare?
  14. Joe_Stocks

    Obama's worst moment

    Can liberals here help me out? Did Obama sell out because he said there is evil in the world? Or was it terrible for Obama to say that we had to use force to defeat the Nazis? Or was the scandal that he said that al-Qeada cannot be negotiated into laying down their arms? Is this the...
  15. Joe_Stocks

    What Makes People Vote Republican?

    Hi Smoke, The sad thing is you believe these absurd caricatures. I respect that you came to your beliefs in a rational way. Too bad that decorum is not a two-way street.
  16. Joe_Stocks

    What Makes People Vote Republican?

    Hi Smoke, What planet are you on? Governments with socialized healthcare withhold drugs from people because they deem them too expensive. Americans had greater access to life-saving and sustaining drugs than in countries with socialized healthcare. This is fact. Can the silly 'you know...
  17. Joe_Stocks

    What Makes People Vote Republican?

    Hi Smoke, Good, so you know we don't have a free market for either health insurance or healthcare in our country. In a free market the cost of insurance would be dramatically reduced from what it is now. Barbara could shop outside of the state for plans that could possibly cover her in...
  18. Joe_Stocks

    What Makes People Vote Republican?

    Hi Smoke, How silly of me. We sure have a free market for health insurance where you can't buy health insurance across state lines, states force insurance companies to cover things they otherwise wouldn't cover, states also regulate with guaranteed issue and community rating. Most of us...
  19. Joe_Stocks

    What Makes People Vote Republican?

    Hi Smoke, And who should get the make that decision? That is my point; in the system you favor the government makes those decisions. In my system the individual and family would be making those decisions. Of course they do. Barbara wouldn't be purchasing health insurance, she would...
  20. Joe_Stocks

    The Bizarro World of Today's Conservatives?

    Hi Darkness, So, you do listen to a lot of talk radio?
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