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  1. setarcos

    Is there any reason to reject the science of evolution, other than religious beliefs?

    We all just spout words here. I beg to differ that I have given nothing of substance to consider. What have I said that has been debunked over and over?
  2. setarcos

    Is there any reason to reject the science of evolution, other than religious beliefs?

    Well, you seem to have at least upgraded my post from being merely long winded to being a treatise. Still too lazy or afraid to engage with what I've said though it seems. Especially since your the one that asked. But Que Sera Sera. Oh no...you've banished me to "ig" city!:eek: Am I supposed to...
  3. setarcos

    Is there any reason to reject the science of evolution, other than religious beliefs?

    Lol...perhaps my posts can get somewhat long winded. That doesn't mean that they are wrong. I'd rather wade through a long winded speech to get at a kernel of truth than zip through a shallow breeze wafting some empty and vapid opinion. I've noticed a few things here. 1) You use insults to...
  4. setarcos

    Is there any reason to reject the science of evolution, other than religious beliefs?

    Examples of what specifically are you requesting?
  5. setarcos

    Is there any reason to reject the science of evolution, other than religious beliefs?

    I'd say, in that moment faith becomes belief. What happens when a scientific prediction isn't fulfilled? Faith becomes disillusionment in the moment. Kind of like when scientists discovered that the predicted behavior of the universes expansion rate didn't and still don't fit the expectations...
  6. setarcos

    Is there any reason to reject the science of evolution, other than religious beliefs?

    It was meant to be general since the question was posed hypothetically and arose as a result of my personal experiences which cannot be proven to those in this thread. I wouldn't say all anomalies are written off as unimportant. I'd say some are just written off because they can't currently be...
  7. setarcos

    Is there any reason to reject the science of evolution, other than religious beliefs?

    You know...I wonder if I really understand anything about anything anymore. Definitionally it is claimed that at the macroevolutionary scale significant changes are occurring at the specie or species level - specifically encompassing and explaining the origins, diversification, and extinction of...
  8. setarcos

    Is there any reason to reject the science of evolution, other than religious beliefs?

    Probability that they were correct after the fact...100%. Probability that the future will uphold present expectations? Incalculable since, at the fundamental subatomic levels of reality we don't know what sustains the present values used in the calculations. This in fact is the logical...
  9. setarcos

    Is there any reason to reject the science of evolution, other than religious beliefs?

    I don't state the attributes of God as facts since I can't prove what the attributes of a theoretical being which stands at the pinnacle of infinite ability in reality would be like. The scriptures I believe in describe such a God as ultimately ineffable. The effable specifics of which may be...
  10. setarcos

    Is there any reason to reject the science of evolution, other than religious beliefs?

    In short, belief in something for which one has reasons but no definitively verifiable proof. Of course one can have unreasonable, irrational, or even delusional faith but I try to follow the tenet that ones faith should be reasonable. Whether you find it odious or not, human nature is such...
  11. setarcos

    Is there any reason to reject the science of evolution, other than religious beliefs?

    No. Okay...your argument for this proposition? When I use 'apparent probability' or 'improbability' Its not my personal opinion. Its data I've came across from scientific professionals calculations in their respective fields of study if that's what your getting at. I've identified those...
  12. setarcos

    Is there any reason to reject the science of evolution, other than religious beliefs?

    You'll have to clarify what your trying to get me to realize here? As far as I am aware I haven't made the statement you've quoted. If I did you have to be leaving out a lot of context. What kind of equivocation of the word faith are you talking about? Faith is faith is it not? Do to the...
  13. setarcos

    Is there any reason to reject the science of evolution, other than religious beliefs?

    First off, let me be clear that I'm not implying that 'you' are simplistic in your thinking. I don't want you to be unnecessarily offended. Nor do I want to open myself up to being proven a fool. "I believe in I.D." may be simple as a statement but if you believe that the tip of the iceberg...
  14. setarcos

    Is there any reason to reject the science of evolution, other than religious beliefs?

    That's the simplistic version of my beliefs but broadly acceptable. More specifically, I believe there are many evidences that can have more than one interpretation. Which interpretation one leans towards would have to be a matter of calculable probability. I believe that given some evidences...
  15. setarcos

    Is there any reason to reject the science of evolution, other than religious beliefs?

    Thanks for the clarification. I've given some interpretable evidence. You've not commented on what I have given.
  16. setarcos

    Is there any reason to reject the science of evolution, other than religious beliefs?

    Word salad implies a lot of product without much substance. Why do you start your conversation with an ad hominem attack which implies I've said a lot but with little of substance? That's an unnecessary method used by mediocre minds that arrogantly think they know better but either are too lazy...
  17. setarcos

    Is there any reason to reject the science of evolution, other than religious beliefs?

    I don't put much blind credence in what believers 'often' do. Believers and non-believers can often be wrong. Christians should believe that such a God transcends man’s ability to comprehend what's reasonable. God cannot be contradictory in its being or actions as far as being reasonable goes...
  18. setarcos

    Is there any reason to reject the science of evolution, other than religious beliefs?

    Greater agreed upon precision would be best in my estimation for sentient beings to better communicate with one another. I have a counterpoint for you to consider though... My premise is that processes cannot be unintended without conscious reflection. The argument... 1) A purposeful action...
  19. setarcos

    Is there any reason to reject the science of evolution, other than religious beliefs?

    I beg to differ...see my post 308 to Dimi95 for instance. I'm interested in your view of those ideas.
  20. setarcos

    Is there any reason to reject the science of evolution, other than religious beliefs?

    What I mean by natural hypothesis is the presumption that all processes in reality can ultimately trace their origins to purposeless happenstance. That is, undirected, fortuitous events causing an increase in the productively effective order of a realistic system . For example, while the...
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