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  1. rubi

    If Christ wasn't the messiah, what was he?

    BLESSED SHABBAT SHALOM
  2. rubi

    If Christ wasn't the messiah, what was he?

    I don't think so. yes, people spoke foreign language but they knew Hebrew and definitely knew to read the Hebrew Tora.
  3. rubi

    If Christ wasn't the messiah, what was he?

    no. I'm taking into account the title of the thread. "if Christ wasn't the messiah, what was he?"
  4. rubi

    If Christ wasn't the messiah, what was he?

    this suggests there is evil intent. As I was saying here, the plain translation of the word עלמה in Isaiah 7:14 is not a virgin but "the young woman". so, understandably the rabbis interpret the prophecy (that was told 700 years earlier and a context that makes you rethink whether it talks about...
  5. rubi

    If Christ wasn't the messiah, what was he?

    you said: I assume you said it under the assumption that he wasn't the Messiah. So, Christ wanted to be the Messiah and eventually, God made him the Messiah. Christianity says he always was the Messiah.. since he was God's son.
  6. rubi

    If Christ wasn't the messiah, what was he?

    but, to whom was it told? I didn't understand
  7. rubi

    If Christ wasn't the messiah, what was he?

    I highly doubt that
  8. rubi

    If Christ wasn't the messiah, what was he?

    And God happened to grant his wish? what did he say about following the Tora? did he encourage it?
  9. rubi

    If Christ wasn't the messiah, what was he?

    Yes. And I think the point is which Jews? the peasant or scholars? I think the peasant that if they didn't follow Christ, they would idol worship. in a smaller scale, though.
  10. rubi

    If Christ wasn't the messiah, what was he?

    I agree. but it doesn't mean that the boy is his son. moreover, if Christ is the son of God, then he is not the descendent of King David, which is a requirement to be the Messiah..
  11. rubi

    If Christ wasn't the messiah, what was he?

    the Jewish people have never believed in Christ. He may have misled people to believe in him, but it says nothing. in the video, the possibility to make a sin is the issue. in Judaism, there are 620 commandments, and not committing them may be a sin in different levels. the sin that he talks...
  12. rubi

    If Christ wasn't the messiah, what was he?

    I was told here that was known because angel Gabriel said so. to whom was it told?
  13. rubi

    If Christ wasn't the messiah, what was he?

    I didn't say that. I said that evolution exists in nature. I also said that Adam was created as a full-grown young man
  14. rubi

    If Christ wasn't the messiah, what was he?

    it wasn't the point that I made, but sure. It is quite ridiculous to say that Crist was the messiah when the idea is that he bring an undeniable change to the world, among them the end of death and especially wars. Now that I think about it I see what the Romans saw in this cult. They saw a...
  15. rubi

    If Christ wasn't the messiah, what was he?

    How important are the 5-10% of the textual variances in the NT? Some of them are giants! Here are a few examples: 1) Is the doctrine of the Trinity found in 1 John 5:7-8? It depends on which manuscript you read. 2) Did Jesus appear to any of his followers after the resurrection in the book...
  16. rubi

    If Christ wasn't the messiah, what was he?

    OK. have a good night
  17. rubi

    If Christ wasn't the messiah, what was he?

    I find that hard to believe that the Greek translation translated העלמה as a virgin. the original Septuagint was forced upon the rabbis and was over the first 5 books - Genesis to Deuteronomy. Rabbis very disliked translating the Tanach in general and specifically the Tora. so, it is safe to...
  18. rubi

    If Christ wasn't the messiah, what was he?

    I don't know. I do think, they were highly manipulated. click here
  19. rubi

    If Christ wasn't the messiah, what was he?

    you queted the entire message, i've brought it to your attention
  20. rubi

    If Christ wasn't the messiah, what was he?

    if I understood you correctly, you're saying that phrase 19 and phrase 20 are two separated phrases with no connection between them, correct? who can you call here to be an external commenter? I didn't understand the issue with Adam.
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