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  1. Redemptionsong

    Israel (is) my son...my firstborn.

    To say that we have no idea what Jesus said goes against the whole notion of testimony. In this case the twelve apostles, and many other disciples, gave their honest accounts of what they saw and heard. Luke goes so far as to use the expression, 'many infallible proofs' in relation to the...
  2. Redemptionsong

    Israel (is) my son...my firstborn.

    Only Matthew's genealogy starts with Abraham. Mary's line starts with Adam. Both genealogies are necessary. What's particularly interesting is that these genealogies of Jesus were seen as genuine. Josephus, a contemporary, was able to find his in the public records, so l have no doubt that these...
  3. Redemptionsong

    Israel (is) my son...my firstborn.

    Interesting. Jesus seemed to think that you could not get to the Father except through the Son. Jesus said, 'l am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.' If you know the Father, then you must have seen the fulfilment of Jeremiah 31:33. Is that correct? As...
  4. Redemptionsong

    Israel (is) my son...my firstborn.

    Two distinct genealogies are required to show that the Messiah is both the Son of God and the Son of man.
  5. Redemptionsong

    Israel (is) my son...my firstborn.

    I think he is directly attacking Christianity, and he pulls no punches in doing so! Tovia Singer does not restrict his comments to passages from the Tanakh, but argues that the New Testament is an unreliable testimony. He attacks the teachings of Paul, in particular.
  6. Redemptionsong

    Israel (is) my son...my firstborn.

    What should be persuasive to you, as you look to find a Messiah with legitimate Davidic credentials, is that Jesus' genealogies demonstrate that he has every right to be considered the Messiah. Jesus mediates perfectly between God and man. Not only does he have the royal Davidic lineage, but he...
  7. Redemptionsong

    Israel (is) my son...my firstborn.

    The Messiah is not mentioned by name in many passages of prophecy. But the whole of scripture points to him! Scripture is a parable of earth and heaven, and to limit one's understanding of scripture to the earthly story is to miss the meaning! Christ is everywhere in the scriptures, you just...
  8. Redemptionsong

    Israel (is) my son...my firstborn.

    The promised seed goes all the way back to Eve, Genesis 3:15. The promise can then be followed through Abraham, and on to David, as the genealogies of Jesus demonstrate.
  9. Redemptionsong

    WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT IS ABOLISHED?

    1 John 2:3-4 is not talking about the 613 commandments found in the Torah, but the two commandments that summarize the law: Love God, and love your neighbour. We can be sure of this because John goes on to say in 1 John 2:10, 'He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none...
  10. Redemptionsong

    Israel (is) my son...my firstborn.

    I don't think the Messiah is irrelevant to the verse. The point about 'lsrael' is that lsrael as a people comes from Israel the individual. The seed is both singular, and plural. This is a shadow of the Messiah, the seed of promise.
  11. Redemptionsong

    Israel (is) my son...my firstborn.

    Do you mean that lsrael is the firstborn by faith in Christ?
  12. Redemptionsong

    WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT IS ABOLISHED?

    I am not suggesting that the moral law be broken, and Jesus did not break the moral law when he worked on the sabbath! [I notice you have failed to explain John 5:17] Maybe you can now explain to me how you hope to keep the sabbath commandment without making it a legalistic issue! I don't have...
  13. Redemptionsong

    WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT IS ABOLISHED?

    The sabbath that was created in Genesis was God's sabbath! It is not going to be enjoyed by mankind until the seventh millennium! You do err, not understanding the scriptures!
  14. Redemptionsong

    WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT IS ABOLISHED?

    The sabbath lS the seventh day of the week, but man's week is not the same as God's week! Why did Jesus continue to do God's work if God wanted him to rest?
  15. Redemptionsong

    WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT IS ABOLISHED?

    How do you explain Galatians 3:19? The law was not the goal of God's plan. The goal was for man to live by spirit and truth in love. This is only achieved through faith in the righteousness of God, which is the Spirit of Christ.
  16. Redemptionsong

    WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT IS ABOLISHED?

    How can the fourth commandment be a holy day of rest for all mankind, if it is conditional? The covenant made with Moses was made with lsrael, not all mankind. Mark 2:27 is being interpreted by you as referring to the weekly sabbath of man, but there is no reason to think it is not referring to...
  17. Redemptionsong

    WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT IS ABOLISHED?

    Does lsaiah say 'every Sabbath', or 'from one sabbath to another'? There's a big difference, with the latter including all the days in between!
  18. Redemptionsong

    WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT IS ABOLISHED?

    These were all commandments and laws given specifically to Abraham. Where is the commandment telling Abraham to keep a day of rest every seventh day?
  19. Redemptionsong

    WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT IS ABOLISHED?

    One step at a time! Firstly, you acknowledge that Genesis 2:2 is not about the sabbath of man; it's about the sabbath of God! This is important because it shows that the sabbath of man is not made a part of any covenant until the time of Moses (in the book of Exodus). Evidence is to be found of...
  20. Redemptionsong

    WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT IS ABOLISHED?

    I understand that the disciples of Jesus chose to meet on the first day of the week, but there is nothing to indicate that Sunday replaces Saturday as the weekly sabbath. I don't believe that any particular day was designated as the new sabbath. The true sabbath of rest is God's seventh day...
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