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  1. Sheldon

    Homosexuality and religious.

    That is pretty disingenuous since atheism is not "the idea there is no deity" atheism is simply the lack or absence of belief. Admit? Who on earth ever suggested human reasoning could be infallible, this is just a straw man you've created. The reason your flawed reasoning is so obviously weak...
  2. Sheldon

    I Believe ...

    Humans need to form beliefs about the world they inhabit, or they couldn't function. I don't give much thought to the light switches I throw on, or that traffic in the opposite lane will stay there most of time, or that food will keep me alive, but if I didn't believe any of those things my...
  3. Sheldon

    What happens after we die

    That's not evidence, it is an assumption. If the laws of thermodynamics supported such a conclusions why isn't there anything in science supporting this claim. Go on any physics site and ask trained physicist if they accept your assumption. If it supported your assumption there would be a broad...
  4. Sheldon

    Homosexuality and religious.

    Being gay is not engaging in practices, it is part of who a person is. This is a weak and ignorant human prejudice, to call it infallible and divine is demonstrably irrational.
  5. Sheldon

    Homosexuality and religious.

    Absolute certainty isn't infallible reasoning, it's the very definition of closed minded. Uncritical adherence to dogma is not sound reasoning either, it is the very definition of indoctrination. If your prophet's words were infallible, then they'd never contain human ignorance, prejudice and...
  6. Sheldon

    Homosexuality and religious.

    Precisely so, it was also pretty disingenuous of @loverofhumanity to imply atheists generally deal in absolutes when they don't, and more than a little hypocritical when he and other Bahai's have claimed to be 100% certain of their belief, and failed to see any irony at all.
  7. Sheldon

    Homosexuality and religious.

    Why do I get the feeling the irony of that claim, in this thread, is entirely lost on you?
  8. Sheldon

    Homosexuality and religious.

    Restating an irrelevant straw man, while ignoring the fact you used a circular reasoning fallacy, might be seen as dishonest, and not debating in good faith. You assumed your conclusion in your premise, if it was an error that led you to such poor or weak reasoning, then why are you...
  9. Sheldon

    Homosexuality and religious.

  10. Sheldon

    Homosexuality and religious.

    It was a textbook example of a circular reasoning fallacy, you assumed your conclusion in your premise. I know this because I've taken the time to recognise and understand common logical fallacies. Beyond indicating the obvious fallacy you used, I have no what reasoning of mine you are...
  11. Sheldon

    Homosexuality and religious.

    Very few atheists make such claims in my experience, however it isn't a superstition obviously, so no not really like that at all. This is an argumentum ad ignorantiam fallacy, I don't need to rule anything out to note that no one can demonstrate any objective evidence that a deity is even...
  12. Sheldon

    Homosexuality and religious.

    Well you're entitled to an opinion, but it seem to be just sweeping unevidenced claim.
  13. Sheldon

    Homosexuality and religious.

    Describing beging gay as something to be ashamed of, is quite obviously homophobic.
  14. Sheldon

    Homosexuality and religious.

    Homophobia need not involve hate, or fear, only a prejudice that gay people shouldn't be treated equally.
  15. Sheldon

    Homosexuality and religious.

    Then I accept your apology, as I missed your post. You have my sympathies, and my wife for the record left one day while I was in work, I got a note, followed by a solicitors letter, and after living off me for 20 years, she took every penny I had the same day I lost my job. I'd been saving to...
  16. Sheldon

    Homosexuality and religious.

    What are you using to do that? ;)
  17. Sheldon

    Homosexuality and religious.

    It's all we have though see, inventing an imaginary deity, then insisting obviously flawed human ideas like homophobia are perfectly moral because they came from this imaginary deity, is the same human reasoning, just used poorly and uncritically.
  18. Sheldon

    Homosexuality and religious.

    Are people who lie about what others have posted, in order to simply troll a reaction, seeking a serious discussion? I have my own opinion of course, but this be a debate forum I'm curious about the opinion of others.
  19. Sheldon

    Homosexuality and religious.

    So this deity you've imagined is real thinks free will is more important than stopping unimaginable suffering? Sounds like a nasty piece of work, were it an evolved human ape, we'd condemn such inaction out of hand, as indeed you are doing here. So a child is going to be raped, would you stop...
  20. Sheldon

    Homosexuality and religious.

    The nerve, grilling people over claims in a forum designed specifically for.....no wait, your claim is nonsensical. Unless someone has zero interest in debate of course, but then why voice those claims in a debate forum, unless it's simply to provoke a reaction then condemn people for daring...
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