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  1. Pah

    Question for atheists...Do you feel baffled by the religious viewpoint?

    It doesn't take hard work. It's rather easy. So I share your concern. However, it is not the individual that I denigrate but the irrationality. It's much the same as those poor Republicans. What really irks me is the dogmatic intrusion into a secular society.
  2. Pah

    The more things change...

    ... the more they stay the same. Except for Facebook. If you'd like to add me as a friend, I belong to the RF group. :slap: - none of that, now.
  3. Pah

    Answering Advocates of Gay Marriage

    The marriage question is not the point of any, less they be theocratic in leaning. Marriage always has been a civil, secular matter in this country even from the times of the Puritans. The point is that "marriage" is a Christian cover for the exercise of castigating the "abominable". The...
  4. Pah

    So I just started reading The God Delusion..

    I'm afraid there is nothing new in The God Delusion nor in Harris's books. That same arguments have been around for centuries, The difference is that they are said in different ways. In reading Dawkins I recognize the same arguments I use or understand. Dawkins however writes in a nicer modern...
  5. Pah

    An alternative to anti-Mormon protests

    LDS takes a share of the blame. It was the huge amount of money they invested in successfully passing Prop 8. It was divisiveness in the beginning that brought us to to todays fight for rights. Sadly I don't remember the name of the nightclub police raided time and time again. That brought...
  6. Pah

    In a purely hypothetical situation...

    this seems off-topic to the thread
  7. Pah

    Gay advocates protest marriage ban across nation

    ALL marriages are civil - the only difference is the ceremony. Bob
  8. Pah

    Gay advocates protest marriage ban across nation

    Change just may come from an activist clergy who believe in Christ's love as a guiding concern, Paul not withstanding. The days of the Old Testament have come to end in many of the human injustices it promoted. This must be another one.
  9. Pah

    Redefining religion for our modern world: Can we find a balance

    I doubt it. Social alliances are made when acting on a belief. For example, the belief of LDS is considered cultish and wrong by fundimentalists but LDS support is appreciated in social actions, i.e., anti same-sex marriage.
  10. Pah

    What rights do religions have from the state?

    It is concerned with the money the organization raises in order to operate.
  11. Pah

    California's same-sex marriage case affects all of us

    Not having worse conditions does not make the conditions you have justified. An equal, humane condition for all is the only justification.
  12. Pah

    An alternative to anti-Mormon protests

    And thus the punishment comes when the state does not "reward" as it does for your marriage
  13. Pah

    An alternative to anti-Mormon protests

    Democracy has the burden of protecting the rights of minorities. It can not do so with just a vote. It must have judges of what is a right. We have more! The Mayflower Compact would be stupefying today and your particular religious practice may just well be "voted" out of existence.
  14. Pah

    California's same-sex marriage case affects all of us

    Why is that? Are there not committed same-sex relationships where you live?
  15. Pah

    Who do you think is enlightened in the world today?

    Any educated Atheist is enlightened
  16. Pah

    Good Girl / Bad Girl

    I'm not sure. I've known some "bad" girls who were very good and "good" girls who were very bad. That's not confined to sex!
  17. Pah

    California's same-sex marriage case affects all of us

    The question can not be answered until a perspective is established. Same-sex married people have the same "pros and cons" as any other couple with the added "con" of being considered inferior by those who oppose it and thus degrading marriage in general. "Marriage" is just the "flag" that is...
  18. Pah

    Gay Radicals Disrupt/Protest Worship Services

    Quite an action from a loving Christianity. Whatever happened to "turn the other cheek"? Ah it was freedom of worship not freedom of speech. It was in response to the massive monetary investment LDS made in defying freedom of worship. Good Christians were married and want to marry in...
  19. Pah

    Why capitalize improperly?

    I believe you are right. I frequently do not capitalize "God". It seems as silly as naming a human "Human".
  20. Pah

    Not much to tell except that I lost interest after I was fired from my admin position. At one...

    Not much to tell except that I lost interest after I was fired from my admin position. At one time, for almost a month when Rex was selling the forum, I was the only active admin. Maize (Amy) was still a member but, due to personal reasons, was not participating in her admin stuff. I convinced...
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