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  1. Janet Waters

    Who does God want the Antichrist to be?

    You have made quite of few theological assumptions that have caused to you to be out in left field. Most of the above.....I don't even know what to say about it! The headings don't really make any sense and I 'm not sure what the point is for 1. a, 2. a, 3. a, and 4. a. 1. b, c WRONG 2. b...
  2. Janet Waters

    Who does God want the Antichrist to be?

    There are two ideas that are being merged together as though they are "one and the same" making both parts "right." CORRECT: There is the idea that there are certain events and callings (such as the coming of an Anti-Christ) that are PREDESTINED to happen. FALSE: There is the idea that...
  3. Janet Waters

    Who does God want the Antichrist to be?

    Once again.....you are not being clear as to what it is was....that I said.....that necessitated your comments. Here you are combining the [incorrect Calvinistic Predestination theory] with the true---correct doctrine of "Election by Grace." And then you are confusing the correct "Election by...
  4. Janet Waters

    Who does God want the Antichrist to be?

    Thank you! I hope you have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!! :)
  5. Janet Waters

    Who does God want the Antichrist to be?

    I'm not really sure what your point has to do with my comment. However, it seems that your response is rooted in Calvinism---which is a manmade theory (not a Biblical doctrine) that was taught by John Calvin (1509-1564) concerning his limited understanding about God. Calvinism was a byproduct...
  6. Janet Waters

    Who does God want the Antichrist to be?

    I agree with your assessment about the spirit of anti-Christ. It is a spirit (or an attitude) that one has against Jesus Christ, His teachings, His Words (as found in the scriptures), His authorized servants, and against anything that is virtuous, honest, good, and true. Rather it is the...
  7. Janet Waters

    A Challenge To All Creationists

    The Genesis version is an over-simplified account which does not technically explain all the steps of "creating" the Creation. It does not explain that in order to "create" God must first organize materials and then form those ingredients into a new entity (organizing and forming are the two...
  8. Janet Waters

    A Challenge To All Creationists

    The classical notion of the Creation (taken from the Bible)---was that the earth was originally organized and formed from pre-existing material (eternal matter) and these "ingredients" were reorganized and formed into the sphere that we now know. It wasn't until the Dark Ages that the Latin...
  9. Janet Waters

    Who does God want the Antichrist to be?

    My desire is not to create God in my own image. Especially when I am a imperfect person---I do not desire God to be imperfect like I am. I would rather allow God to change me, my imperfections, and my misunderstandings, so that I could be more like Him (as I learn of His perfect ways) and I...
  10. Janet Waters

    Who does God want the Antichrist to be?

    We have Agency---the freedom of choice, but we do not have the freedom to choose the consequences of those choices. People are allowed to make bad choices, however that should not imply that God is implicit in those bad choices. God knows what we are going to do before we do it. But if our...
  11. Janet Waters

    Who does God want the Antichrist to be?

    Personally I would not say that God HELPS Satan do anything, but rather, I would say, that God is All-Knowing (able to see in the future) and in the day He created The Plan of Salvation He already knew how Satan would try to overturn it, and because of this, there were already provisions in the...
  12. Janet Waters

    Who does God want the Antichrist to be?

    Oh I definately have always had a high opinion and devotion to the Bible. But I also recognize that over time, that there were unintentional errors by scribes and unauthorized translations, as well as intentional subtractions of many plain and simple doctrines taken out of from text (for...
  13. Janet Waters

    Who does God want the Antichrist to be?

    LDS Doctrine teaches that ALL things were organized from spirit matter (eternal mater) before it was physically formed. Not only the earth, but all beings were spiritually created before it was physically born/created. Here is Joseph Smith's translation of Genesis 1:1-4: Moses 2:1-4 1 And it...
  14. Janet Waters

    Who does God want the Antichrist to be?

    Thank you for the information. I see what you mean. I don't know if you noticed, but I am LDS and this discrepancy was further elaborated on by The Book of Abraham (which is part of our cannon). Here are the differences between these two records: Genesis 1:1-4 1. In the beginning God...
  15. Janet Waters

    Who does God want the Antichrist to be?

    While I agree with you---about the whole idea about the eventual Apostasy of the primitive Church of Jesus Christ (which thing the apostles prophesied would happen before Christ's Second Coming). And I agree about some inaccuracy of Biblical translation which was made over time (but mostly...
  16. Janet Waters

    Who does God want the Antichrist to be?

    I know nothing about what man has deemed as the "Christian gap" theory....I speak of Biblical Doctrine....not present day theories about the past. The book of Genesis was originally written by Moses and rewritten over time by scribes and translated by other actors. The information about the...
  17. Janet Waters

    Who does God want the Antichrist to be?

    We may come to this attitude based upon on incorrect understanding of God and His purposes. But this is what Isaiah counsels us (having a correct understanding) about God and his ways: Isaiah 55:8-9 8 ¶For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. 9...
  18. Janet Waters

    Who does God want the Antichrist to be?

    Have you ever heard about the 1st Estate and 2nd Estate? In the Pre-existence (before the world was) we lived in Heaven with God....this was our 1st Estate where we proved ourselves faithful before coming to earth. We knew God as our Father---we walked with Him, talked with Him, and we were...
  19. Janet Waters

    Who does God want the Antichrist to be?

    Yes God COULD stop the Anti-Christ at any point.....just like He COULD stop us from committing crimes or doing that which is bad. But He is not going to do this. He allows us the Agency to choose what we want to do. We can't be blessed if we didn't have the ability make both good (or bad)...
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