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First the European stuff was more than the "nasty Gremans" needing to be put down. That was the direct result of the secular governments treatment of Germany from the first world war. You should be thankful that it was Hitler and not someone militarily competent at the helm. There are many...
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Well, the problem here is that you Christians do not agree. So, my replies to Billiard might not be relevant to you.
No. The problem is that you ALREADY now that morality can be relative.
So why pose the questions the exact way that you did when we first started...
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No the op was implying that secularism is a more peaceful philosophy that is less prone to violence than the religious philosophies and when the mass secular killing of the 20th century was used in example he freaked out and tried to divorce himself from the logical extension of his ideology...
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Oh,,,,,,,, Marxism was wrong only to the right. That millions of deaths are needed for the system to be implemented was merely a glitch of poor implementation and if YOU had of been in charge it would have been different. Nuh.... Leventi Baria or someone like him would have knifed you so...
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What a well argued point.
The OP is about how secular government is somehow more nonviolent than the systems that came before. The ease with which the Australian people agree to the killing of people in other countries proves that nothing has changed. Politics has just replaced religious...
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The australian governent has whole heartedly supported every stupid military venture in the last 100 years. It is not an example of the secular ethic that you should be proud of.
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That is not a very comprehensive list. Yes they went after counter revolutionaries in the first couple of years but the REAL slaughter was when they went after the middle class and the small farmers and collectivised the means of production.
The mass starvations were not nationalism they...
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The gulags and re-education camps are not nonsense they are the exact result of the us against the oppressor narrative of the lberal left. Western secular politics is a joke of irrationality because there are no standards that can not be reasoned around.
If you think the middle eastern and...
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I noticed that you started this thread to debunk the comment,,,,, Forget the "end of religious wars" which was the sentiment ushered in at the turn of the 20th Century - where hundreds of millions were murdered for secular causes.
The question that you posed did not mention the hundred...
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Here is the simple basis for my morality re: slavery - I would not want to be a slave, therefore, I assume that other people would also not want people to be slaves. Thus, I am against slavery.
Well there is a house built on sand.
So all this is your assumption. The facts show that many...
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Evolution does not ask us to enslave people, nor to slash kids against walls. Nor to rip pregnant women apart. Like your morality giver does, apparently.
Out of curiosity: don’t you feel a bit embarrassed to get your morality from such a divinity?
If you acknowledge that morality is not a...
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Cool that you admit the bible is only really relevant in ancient times when the peoples of the day made up stories to help them get through their lives.
Me asking that the story be considered within its context is an admission of all these things is it...
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My problem with the discussion is that every time i think that something has been established it gets ....backtracked....here is an earlier comment of yours........I already know that morality is relative. And that things valid today, might not have been valid back then, and the other way...
Since god changed his absolute moral standards in order to be relevant to lessor beings, it is a change in his morality. And there's your contradiction. You can only have either absolute morality or no absolute morality, one the other. They are opposites that contradicts one another. A paradox...
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So, progressive revelation. .. Ok.
The previous revelations had nothing to say about abolishing the practise, It seems like the "take no Slaves" revelation was relegated to the 1800's ce. It makes me wonder what you get from banging away at the Bible for not banning the practise?
Is there...
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You simply will not acknowledge that Christianity did not become a reality until the Roman and Greek Fathers compiled the Bible, and it became a Roman religion.
You are incorrect with what you state above. The fact that rome absorbed a fully interconnected religion with centuries of...