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  1. Moonjuice

    Is Christianity Inherently Immoral?

    Sorry, I don't think the concept of volunteering to be murdered, because the judge (which is you) made a rule that death is required in order to be excused, is the same thing as paying a bill for someone who does not have enough money to pay the bill themselves. It's not even close to the same...
  2. Moonjuice

    Is Christianity Inherently Immoral?

    Have we just entered the Twilight Zone or am I being Punked? You say its not simply a matter of "my take vs. your take", then immediately inform me that one interpretation (your take) is honest and thorough, and others (my take) are not. Then you offer to pick apart my poor interpretation, with...
  3. Moonjuice

    Christians...is sexual attraction a choice?

    Do you recall when you chose which sex you were going to be attracted to? What was that like? Were you equally attracted to both sexes or was one dominate over the other when you made your choice?
  4. Moonjuice

    Is Christianity Inherently Immoral?

    We are in agreement on two of the three points you made. Once again, you have pointed out that people who read and follow the bible obviously do not agree on how to read and follow the bible. AND whoever reads and follows the bible, is quite certain that everyone except those that agree with...
  5. Moonjuice

    How do atheists come to term with death?

    This is a really good question. I remember when I lost all faith in Christianity, death was probably the hardest reality to swallow. I'll admit it, the realization that I was not going to live forever, walking around on streets of gold in paradise with all my loved ones for all time, was really...
  6. Moonjuice

    Is Christianity Inherently Immoral?

    Your take is supported by your interpretation, is it not? To me, unless its the same way I interpret it, then your take is demonstrably underinformed. We can do this all day and we are both right to do so. It sure would be nice if there was only one way to interpret it.
  7. Moonjuice

    Is Christianity Inherently Immoral?

    I disagree. My “take” is directly supported by scripture. That being said, if you think you have an un-skewed take, I know it can also be supported with scripture. And anyone who has an interpretation that is different from mine and yours, can also support it with scripture. What part is the...
  8. Moonjuice

    Is Christianity Inherently Immoral?

    That is certainly a really nice way to look at it. However, if never ending happiness or suffering are at stake, understanding what is actually true is definitely worth breaking your head over. Not only do we need to know what is true, vs what is metaphorical, we need to understand the correct...
  9. Moonjuice

    Is Christianity Inherently Immoral?

    I disagree.
  10. Moonjuice

    Main Stream Media Dying....Independent Media is the Future

    Every time you post, you continue to make my point. I'd like to refute your info with the Republican equivalent, but I agree "their media doesn't tell them (about what Dem policies are good)". The same way your media doesn't tell you about any negative Dem polices, or any positive Republican...
  11. Moonjuice

    Is Christianity Inherently Immoral?

    God making himself suffer, is the only way to allow "good" to exist? You actually think that makes sense?
  12. Moonjuice

    Main Stream Media Dying....Independent Media is the Future

    I totally agree with everything you listed here. And, yet, I still think you are being duped just like the rest of us. Yes, by these politicians and by the biased media. Otherwise, by your logic, all it takes is "paying attention to what is actually happening" and then we will all come to the...
  13. Moonjuice

    Main Stream Media Dying....Independent Media is the Future

    Well shoot, you've mad such a great point, you are right. My informed opinion is shallow nonsense! Thanks for letting me know. Now, where can I go to get the facts from informed research and professional journalism? Where can I go to follow politics without running into shallow nonsense?
  14. Moonjuice

    Main Stream Media Dying....Independent Media is the Future

    Dude. Every statement you have made has been equally divisive. This is the point of the topic! You have been duped, they have been duped, we all have been duped. You have been duped into thinking the Democratic party has the countries best interests at heart, while the Republicans are trying to...
  15. Moonjuice

    Is Christianity Inherently Immoral?

    I agree, Justice. How can it be considered "Just" for a criminal to not be punished, but an innocent man is allowed to serve the punishment for a crime he did not commit and that somehow absolves the criminal from any wrong doing? Allowing criminals to escape consequences of their own actions by...
  16. Moonjuice

    Atheists: u mad, bro?

    None of the above. In fact, I'm not sure why "leaving out of anger" are the only options given. Why would someone think that the only way people leave a religion has to do with being angry? I think if you added "Left, but not out of anger, for other reasons" that would have received most of the...
  17. Moonjuice

    Is Christianity Inherently Immoral?

    That is a great question, but no, that’s not the question I was posing. Specifically, is the act of vicarious redemption moral or immoral?
  18. Moonjuice

    Is Christianity Inherently Immoral?

    I’m specifically referring to a very important precept. I’m not ignoring it, just trying to understand how the concept can be moral. I mean, to expect two humans with no understanding of right or wrong, to not be fooled by the master of deception (Satan, aka talking snake) and then punish all of...
  19. Moonjuice

    Is Christianity Inherently Immoral?

    Dude, I’m being serious. I’m looking for the definition of “turn the other cheek. I know what I think it means, I just want to make sure we both agree before I answer your question. If the definition of “turn the other cheek” means “something like absolute Ahimsa”, then I’m going to have to ask...
  20. Moonjuice

    Is Christianity Inherently Immoral?

    What does give the other cheek mean? If we can agree on the context, I’d be happy to share my thoughts.
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