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  1. Windwalker

    There is NO Historical Evidence for Jesus

    This isn't necessarily automatically true. There are many views of life one can come to when you discard a religious belief in God. Nihilism can be one option as well. Hedonism another. Wanton power seeking another. Humanitarianism another. And so forth. What you are describing is one of many...
  2. Windwalker

    There is NO Historical Evidence for Jesus

    I think this is because an atheist has had some type of experience with a red car at some point they can relate to, and therefore allow others to be speaking about something real to them. But if they had no experience with any type of cars at any point, they might be inclined to think that...
  3. Windwalker

    There is NO Historical Evidence for Jesus

    This is confusing. You're saying people who love themselves are terrified of life coming to and end and their ceasing to exist as the person they were in this life? That's doesn't make a lot of sense to me. If they truly love themselves, they are contented and grateful for what time they have...
  4. Windwalker

    Your blood was in Big Bang!

    A car mechanic completely ignores my childhood history and its effects upon my personality as well, because psychology has nothing to do with car mechanics. This does not mean the field of automotive repair assumes humans are nothing but car parts, like pistons and valves. Only a grease monkey...
  5. Windwalker

    A Blast from the Past... aka "Honey, did you see where I left my keys?"

    Yes, it is remarkable the clarity of mind and objectivity one can get by removing these obstacles, such as substance abuse and the self-amplifying loops of negative thought patterns. It's tragically too easy to let the weeds take over the entire garden, speaks from experience. Here's the things...
  6. Windwalker

    A Blast from the Past... aka "Honey, did you see where I left my keys?"

    And here, my narcissistic self thought you left because of me having beat you so badly in one of our enjoyable debates. :) Seriously though, sounds like a life-changing ordeal for you. I'll only surmise at this point it may have to do with alcoholism and some unfortunate tragedy that forced a...
  7. Windwalker

    There is NO Historical Evidence for Jesus

    I see literalist beliefs as a developmental stage. In a sense the spiritual lessons are embedded in the symbols of their faith, but they are wholly external to them at that stage. This is no different than the rule/role stage of children who learn proper behaviors through the threat of an...
  8. Windwalker

    By the way -- if you claim to be a Christian...

    Fascinating. An interesting thought occurred to me reading about the sacrificing of the virgins to Jehovah mentioned in the article. Clearly there were those who were doing that, and there was also clearly a movement to stop doing that as well. I wonder if the whole idea of celibacy for nuns is...
  9. Windwalker

    By the way -- if you claim to be a Christian...

    When the basis for your rejection of the theory of evolution is your reading of the book of Genesis, that it appears to you to be a literal recording of events in strict chronological order, which contradicts the order that science explains based upon the evidence it is able to reliably look at...
  10. Windwalker

    By the way -- if you claim to be a Christian...

    Well yes, sometimes it takes banging your head against reality enough to figure out walking with your eyes facing your feet isn't serving your very well. I had this verse from the Psalms pop into my head just now. "Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence?" The...
  11. Windwalker

    By the way -- if you claim to be a Christian...

    Thanks for clarifying for me. I didn't realize some Christians don't just merely reject the theory of evolution, but all sciences including physics, astronomy, biology, cosmology, etc., in order to preserve their faith in their reading of Genesis. But each person does have to walk their own...
  12. Windwalker

    By the way -- if you claim to be a Christian...

    When I read the two different stories of creation in Genesis, I'm not reading them as a scientific explanation of how things were created in any literal sense. I don't see that was their intent, to satisfy the scientific mind. For instance, if I were to read it literally in a scientific way...
  13. Windwalker

    By the way -- if you claim to be a Christian...

    No it is not contrived. It is extremely well supported and well proven out. You simply calling it contrived is just bad mouthing something because you dislike it for some unknown reason. If God is the Creator, and evolution is supported science, then God created the first man and woman through...
  14. Windwalker

    By the way -- if you claim to be a Christian...

    Does the theory of evolution deny God is the Creator?
  15. Windwalker

    By the way -- if you claim to be a Christian...

    The theory of evolution is not a contrived theory at all. It is a model of explanation of factual data we have from multiple sources of attestation. The science is undeniable. It's rock solid. But that fact aside here, you are right he didn't know about the science of evolution, because he lived...
  16. Windwalker

    By the way -- if you claim to be a Christian...

    I do not believe he would be lying, of course. But I can accept number 2 quite comfortably. Why can't you? And number 3 is again an issue of theology. You assume the Jesus did not "empty himself and take upon him the form of a [human]." You assume he was not fully human at all then, and that...
  17. Windwalker

    By the way -- if you claim to be a Christian...

    If we understand a parable to mean, "a simple story used to illustrate a moral or spiritual lesson," then his referring to them most clearly fits that definition. He cites the story of them as an example of marriage. Just like we cite the story of the Good Samaritan as an example of compassion...
  18. Windwalker

    There is NO Historical Evidence for Jesus

    I know that I also had cleary said in those exact words that he was at the right place and the right time. For instance, there's always some stronger than average, or "extraordinary" or charismatic personality in the crowd somewhere, but their impact has to be a matter of timing, being in the...
  19. Windwalker

    By the way -- if you claim to be a Christian...

    To illustrate what I just said above, should we read that passage to support the view that God has a literal mouth, with lips and teeth and a tongue? Some believe God has a physical body, and might choose the cite this verse as proof of that, since why else would Jesus refer to God's mouth, if...
  20. Windwalker

    By the way -- if you claim to be a Christian...

    It should be a question for everyone. To be absolutely certain of your own ideas to where you consider it a sin against God to think otherwise about them, tends to place that attachment to their own beliefs right in the path being open and receptive to greater understandings. This is where...
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