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  1. Ben Dhyan

    If Christ wasn't the messiah, what was he?

    Ok then, thank you, got that.
  2. Ben Dhyan

    If Christ wasn't the messiah, what was he?

    That is not what I was asking, I was asking what do you you think about what Jesus taught? If you have not read the gospel of John, not a problem, you can't answer and that is understood.
  3. Ben Dhyan

    If Christ wasn't the messiah, what was he?

    That was not the question, it is not who wrote it that is important, it is what it had to say that is. You said in the post I responded to that, "like the coin has two sides, I too have two sides. That of a strong atheist and if a follower of Abrahamic religions or a theist Hindu engages me...
  4. Ben Dhyan

    If Christ wasn't the messiah, what was he?

    So what do you think of the teaching of Jesus as is recorded in the Gospel of John?
  5. Ben Dhyan

    If science proves that non-local consciousness is real how does that change your understanding

    Wow. Yes, once we start making distinctions between the different expressions of the one God, it can go on until infinity. different galaxies, dirrent stars, different archangels, different worlds, different angels, different planetary kingdoms of nature, different human beings, different...
  6. Ben Dhyan

    If science proves that non-local consciousness is real how does that change your understanding

    Shiva and Shakti are sctually one, Father and Son are actually one. Brahman is actual non-dual, God actually is non-dual.
  7. Ben Dhyan

    If science proves that non-local consciousness is real how does that change your understanding

    Ok. Impressive. Oneness is taught in all religions I know, Taoism, Buddhism, Christianity, Sanatan Dharma, I don't know why you think Christianity should not be included?
  8. Ben Dhyan

    If science proves that non-local consciousness is real how does that change your understanding

    Oneness is non-dual, is cannot be conveyed conceptually, if you want to know what it means, then you will need to give up duality.
  9. Ben Dhyan

    If science proves that non-local consciousness is real how does that change your understanding

    Nonsense, the state of non-duality is oneness. there is no logic and no non-logic, it is free from all concepts, all thoughts, all words, all maths. It is pure awareness, Christ Consciousness.
  10. Ben Dhyan

    If science proves that non-local consciousness is real how does that change your understanding

    That does not make sense, physical existence is not the totality of existence, have you ever attained to the state of mind free from all thought, and if so, what was the experience?
  11. Ben Dhyan

    If science proves that non-local consciousness is real how does that change your understanding

    Yes Stephen, you understand. The fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil is the dualistic conceptualization of reality, wheras pure awareness is the non-dual Christ Consciousness/Love.
  12. Ben Dhyan

    If science proves that non-local consciousness is real how does that change your understanding

    Ok, perhaps you are unaware that I've also explained this many times before to those who have never realized non-duality, that the teaching of others by definiton implies duality, the teacher/conceptualizer and the student/conceptualizer. Iow, conceptualization is essential for a teacher...
  13. Ben Dhyan

    If science proves that non-local consciousness is real how does that change your understanding

    It is not a belief, you just don't understand becaise you have never stilled your mind have you? All you need to do is still your mind and the brain ego-self does not arise, when there is no brain-ego self consciousness arising in the mind, there is no mind duality, there is just pure...
  14. Ben Dhyan

    If science proves that non-local consciousness is real how does that change your understanding

    Ok, when Jesus said "The Father and I are one", that is what non-duality means. It does not mean "I think the Father and I are one".
  15. Ben Dhyan

    If science proves that non-local consciousness is real how does that change your understanding

    Any and all definitions of consciousness are meant to represent the reality represented by the concept of consciousness, but they are not, and never will be able to realize the reality represented by the name 'consciousness'. Cease all thought, and consciousness will be what is realized, not...
  16. Ben Dhyan

    If science proves that non-local consciousness is real how does that change your understanding

  17. Ben Dhyan

    If science proves that non-local consciousness is real how does that change your understanding

    All this blather from unenlightened souls about a reality they have not realized. There is no logic to it except perhaps some inherent sense of inferiority.
  18. Ben Dhyan

    If science proves that non-local consciousness is real how does that change your understanding

    It may be your belief that it is a belief, that is because you have not given yourself to realize spiritual awareness. Same goes for all believers, beliefs are not reality, they represent some reality. Belief is not reality, try to understand. Spiritual awareness is not a belief, but there are...
  19. Ben Dhyan

    If science proves that non-local consciousness is real how does that change your understanding

    Please show where I described spiritual awareness as a belief. You have obviously not read many of my posts, I am forever explaining to whoever is interested in serious religious practice that reality is forever on the other side of conceptualization/belief. A belief, as with a concept, may be...
  20. Ben Dhyan

    If science proves that non-local consciousness is real how does that change your understanding

    Ahem, a subjective experience is not a belief, or do you imagine that when you experience say, a fright, you don't claim to have experienced a fright, but you say you have this belief that you experienced a fright. You seem to have not only insufficient information, but also insufficient...
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