Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
So hours before it is born , it can be aborted. Thank you for clarifying it.
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“Let the states decide.”
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Why would you say that?
The definition of "fetus" is what it is.
At which stages under what conditions abortion
becomes politically acceptable is complex, & not
decided by a word used.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
They won't be represented with their view than a fetus is more than just a piece of tissue after a certain period of time.
That's why it's a states right issue and not a federal issue with the only exception of across the board consensus.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
What week in pregnancy is that?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
No. The original Roe vs Wade had restrictions in place. The modern day Democrats decided to remove all the restrictions which is why it's now even more contentious.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
Yes that is the legal definition, your point?
Even in your misunderstanding you recognize differences in development and responses, you must also admit that not everybody will see it as you do and making personal decisions without interference is what Liberty is about.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Not for me. For me, it totally has to do with the government protecting our lives.
Even if you consider an advanced stage
fetus to be a human, it's still a fetus.
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Pogo
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See what you mean what? I was just clarifying the legal definition since many misuse the term.
What word do you not understand?
What kind of medical procedure would you travel out of state for?
Do you know what a medical procedure is?
Abortion is a medical procedure. But it is not the only medical procedure. Other medical procedures would include things like:Coronary artery bypass grafting (CABG), Heart transplant, Open-heart surgery for valve replacement, Percutaneous coronary intervention (angioplasty with stent placement), Aortic aneurysm repair (open or endovascular), Cardiac catheterization with angiography, Carotid endarterectomy, Left ventricular assist device (LVAD) implantation, Heart-lung bypass surgery, Arrhythmia ablation (cardiac ablation) , Craniotomy for brain tumor resection, Spinal fusion surgery, Deep brain stimulation (DBS) for Parkinson’s disease, Intracranial aneurysm clipping or coiling, Lumbar laminectomy for spinal stenosis, Brain shunt placement for hydrocephalus, Stroke thrombectomy, Peripheral nerve repair, Epilepsy surgery, Brain biopsy, Total hip replacement, Spinal decompression surgery, Limb amputation due to trauma or infection, Complex knee reconstruction surgery, Shoulder joint replacement, Multi-level spinal fusion, Pelvic fracture repair, Total knee replacement, Orthopedic tumor excision, Complex scoliosis surgery, Liver transplant, Pancreaticoduodenectomy (Whipple procedure), Complex bowel resection, Hepatectomy (partial liver resection), Gastric bypass surgery for obesity, Total colectomy with ileostomy, Laparoscopic splenectomy, Esophagectomy, Bile duct reconstruction, Endoscopic retrograde cholangiopancreatography (ERCP) with stone removal, Cesarean section (C-section), Hysterectomy (abdominal or laparoscopic), Oophorectomy (removal of ovaries), Myomectomy (fibroid removal), Pelvic organ prolapse surgery, Complex tubal ligation reversal, Uterine artery embolization, Endometrial ablation, Fertility preservation procedures (e.g., egg retrieval), Radical mastectomy, Lung lobectomy for cancer, Esophagectomy for esophageal cancer, Total gastrectomy for stomach cancer, Bone marrow transplant, Radical nephrectomy for kidney cancer, Prostatectomy for prostate cancer, Ovarian cancer debulking surgery, Lymph node dissection, Radical cystectomy for bladder cancer, or Kidney transplant. And there are others.
So I am going to assume you know what a medical procedure is now. Next part of my question.
"would you travel"
Travel means means to move from one location to a different location, typically use when there is considerable distance between those locations.
So I am going to assume you know what the word "travel" means. The last part of the question is "out of state".
The country you live in is divided up into 50 areas that you (for some reason) refer to as "states" You I understand live in the area referred to as "New York State". So out of state would be outside of of that area.
Have I explained the question sufficiently?
So tell me what kind of medical procedure you would travel out of state for? What medical procedures would you need that is against the law in New York State?
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
So up to what point is abortion OK?Even if you consider an advanced stage
fetus to be a human, it's still a fetus.
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Why?
Non-sequitur
Evidence for this claim?
You keep pulling strange & outrageous claims
out of your ***. Try supporting them.
It'll be good for your intellectual development.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I mean, at what point is abortion OK with you?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
According to Duck assist it's typically 24 to 25 weeks of gestation with some perhaps as early as within the first trimester.
Included link here through Duck assist...
When Can a Fetus Feel Pain in the Womb?
When does a fetus feel pain? Find out what the science says about fetal pain.
www.webmd.com
From post# 202...
At which stages under what conditions abortion
becomes politically acceptable....
Criteria for abortion vs its prohibition will result
from political wrangling & compromise. As we
see, they evolve over time. There is no objective
morality of biology to give a point in time.
And religion is worse than useless.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Thank you.According to Duck assist it's typically 24 to 25 weeks of gestation with some perhaps as early as within the first trimester.
Included link here through Duck assist...
When Can a Fetus Feel Pain in the Womb?
When does a fetus feel pain? Find out what the science says about fetal pain.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Acceptable TO YOU. I didn't say anything about politics.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I don't know if you want to call a contention 'evidence' but I'll even give you a source that's considered the Fox News of the left on that....
Democrats want to ‘restore’ rights in Roe v. Wade but differ on what that means
Some Democrats are open to certain abortion restrictions, while others insist on federal rights that go beyond Roe v. Wade.
www.nbcnews.com
That is between the mother and the doctor. And I suspect that unless there is a very good reason neither of them would agree to do that.
The is no need for big daddy government to get involved in this personal medical situation.
See the edited post.
Distractions delayed finalizing it.
What's acceptable to me personally is
some compromise that gives a reasonable
window of time for a woman to make a
decision about abortion. My preference
is that window be very large.