1,000,000,000/1 Against Evolution !

[JerryL]

Well, gee, where did the variation for some people to be taller than others originate?

A genetic variation? You tell me.

 

[Heracles]

First of all, where did you get these numbers? it doesnt take billions of bad mutations, it takes as many mutations as it takes. If an organism has offspring that are all slightly mutated(and they are "bad mutations") they die off. The organisms with an advantageous or beneficial mutation live to reproduce, and their offspring carry that genetic mutation. Also, mutation isnt evolution. And it certainly isnt the only mechanism involved. Variation, for example, plays a huge role in evolution. Also, genetic isolation.

Now, if you want to bring statistics into the game, there's a few fundamental flaws in your argument. For one, just because the odds are stacked against something occuring, doesn't mean it won't occur, it also doesn't mean it won't occur again, repeatedly even. For example; what are the odds that I will become prime minister of Canada? There are some 32 million people in Canada. I have a one in 32 million chance of becoming prime minister, but does that mean i cant or won't? Of course not. (I might add that I have no ambition to become our prime minister.) As another example, think of a card game, any card game. You get a hand of cards. An ace, a queen, two fours and an 8. What are the odds that you would get that hand? phenomenal, but you still got that hand. Get over it, almost everything in the world that happens has phenomenal odds stacked against it, but IT STILL HAPPENS. Evolutionary scientists, anthropologists and biologists are way more educated and intelligent than you give them credit for, evolution has been tested and tested, it has been debated, it has been altered, shifted, rearranged and added on to. Despite people constantly opposing and trying to disprove evolution, it has survived over 100 years of scrutiny and guess what? IT IS STILL APPLICABLE, it solves more puzzles of life than any other theory before it, therefore, evolution is a true phenomenon, and until we find overwhelming evidence that another theory works, evolution is the explanation.

 

[TurkeyOnRye]

No really it's more like multiply that number by it's self and do it again and that is closer to the odds against evolution!!!!! And I will back that bet!!! Here is what happened yesterday. I looked in on a thread were I was told that evolution now has nothing to do with will ( for the older poeple that went to school years ago ) The gerraffe did not grow his neck to get to the tender leaves on top as we were told ( I did not believe science then either smile ) now it was all by mutation ( for us uneducated poeple in America or any where ) that means ACCIDENTALL. So you have billions of BAD mutations to get ONE GOOD mutation or usefull mutation. can you highly educated people count? The odds of ONE GOOD mutation are so farbillions to one against you in one mutation and you don't even have one cell yet and we have billions and billions of cells and then take that crazy number and multiply it by the number of things on this Earth and then how many cells do they have? Math that has never changed says that this number is so big it in it's self is stupid cause unless you are counting the grans of sand in the whole world this number will never ever come up excerp it is the odds against your stupid theory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now leave what ever you were smoking in collage and get some common sence or do you think that, lets not get all in an uproar lets just say the odds are 1 billion to 1 against you do you think that is a good bet? Cause it is your life and soul you are betting!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm just tring to get you to see! Sorry for trashing you hope you see.

You....I just....my goodness. How does one approach such a statement?