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"1,000 Scientists Sign Up to Dissent from Darwin"

Altfish

Altfish

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Skwim said:
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And other misleading pronouncements.
by Ken Ham on February 11, 2019

Ken Ham, true to form and not one to pass up an opportunity to mislead the gullible, repeats the old creationist canard that evolution can't explain biological origins. I know that just about every evolutionist here, and even some creationists, recognize the "crime," but I wanted everyone to know that despite being corrected time and again, people are still making the asinine assertion, and by the cream of the creationists no less. It sends the unequivocal message that: "We don't care that we have to lie in order to tear down evolution, as long as it works. We're lying for god!"
It would be amusing if it wasn't so harmful.


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Last time this sort of rubbish appeared didn't the NCSE start a petition which got more scientists with the name Steve (including Stephanie and the likes) signed up than the creationists managed using all names

Here it is...
Project Steve - Wikipedia
 
SomeRandom

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
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I half expected the next line to be something along the lines of
“As the rest of the world’s scientists point and laugh at them.”
 
Skwim

Skwim

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Subduction Zone said:
I see it is time to post this video again:


Very, very few biologists or geologists signed it. Almost everyone that did sign it was not qualified to make such a judgement, and a good number of biologists that signed it tried to get their names taken off of it when they realized that they were victims of a fraud.
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Great video. Thanks for sharing.
 
stvdv

stvdv

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Skwim said:
It would be amusing if it wasn't so harmful.
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I still think it is amuzing. How can it be so harmful? Truth will always catch up with lies. For some evolution goes really slow, that's all.

What is truly upsetting, is that freedom of press allows to call these scientists. That's why I yesterday explained to @ChristineM why I am very careful believing what scienctists tell us nowadays ... science and money give sometimes "funny" results not always "accurate" results

They bring this news while bringing their book. That tells me enough ... so many millions of Christians love to buy their book. That, I think, is safe to claim "they for sure want to cash in". And it will show how many gullible people there still are. But it will help to get the Church even more empty soon
 
Kangaroo Feathers

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
stvdv said:
I still think it is amuzing. How can it be so harmful?
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Because it promotes anti-science sentiments and undermines critical thinking skills. If any given person doesn't believe in evolution, that, by itself, probably isn't a big deal in the over all course of things. However, if a person doesn't trust scientists on evolution, will they trust them on things like vaccinations? Or climate change? If their critical thinking skills are poor, they're more likely to fall victim to the exploitative tactics of shysters and demagogues. That's how it's harmful. Sorta like how a snowflake falling might not seem harmful, but get enough of them in the wrong place at the wrong time, you get an avalanche.
 
stvdv

stvdv

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Kangaroo Feathers said:
Because it promotes anti-science sentiments and undermines critical thinking skills. If any given person doesn't believe in evolution, that, by itself, probably isn't a big deal in the over all course of things. However, if a person doesn't trust scientists on evolution, will they trust them on things like vaccinations? Or climate change? If their critical thinking skills are poor, they're more likely to fall victim to the exploitative tactics of shysters and demagogues. That's how it's harmful. Sorta like how a snowflake falling might not seem harmful, but get enough of them in the wrong place at the wrong time, you get an avalanche.
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Hence my remark "What is truly upsetting, is that freedom of press allows to call these scientists"

We live in a fake world "using freedom of speech" a lot of nonsense is uttered. Stop this .. if not ... then accept the consequences

Anyway, I trust the Divine ... not Christians making such claims. Christianity in Holland used to be 99%, now just 40% ... heading towards ZERO, solving the problem

Whatever happens is for the greater good, this I believe. The Divine Plan is without flaw, no Christian can upset that, even if he calls himself a scientist and makes such claims. I believe Science should should not exclude Spirituality. Both have value. Maybe that is a flaw in Science ... if so the Divine Will corrects this, even if it means Science will have to go back a few steps (temporarily)
 
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stvdv

stvdv

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Kangaroo Feathers said:
However, if a person doesn't trust scientists on evolution, will they trust them on things like vaccinations?
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True ... they might not trust them on vaccinations? I don't trust them on vaccinations either. Some are good, now they want to impose flu vaccine
Another big flaw in Science. And I wonder why they are so determined to impose flu vaccine on everyone. Can't be a good reason IMO

As long as Science is in it for the money and acts Adharmic (which they do a lot), they incur lots of karma ... and will be corrected. No doubt
That is a fact ... Science better start accepting ... Disregarding the Vedas and their Truth is not too smart of Science. If not .. well don't cry
The Divine is ruthless when it comes to "going against Dharma". And Science does that a lot and that is not my opinion, that is a fact
 
Kangaroo Feathers

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
stvdv said:
True ... they might not trust them on vaccinations? I don't trust them on vaccinations either. Some are good, now they want to impose flu vaccine
Another big flaw in Science. And I wonder why they are so determined to impose flu vaccine on everyone. Can't be a good reason IMO

As long as Science is in it for the money and acts Adharmic (which they do a lot), they incur lots of karma ... and will be corrected. No doubt
That is a fact ... Science better start accepting ... Disregarding the Vedas and their Truth is not too smart of Science. If not .. well don't cry
The Divine is ruthless when it comes to "going against Dharma". And Science does that a lot and that is not my opinion, that is a fact
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Oh please.
 
stvdv

stvdv

Veteran Member
Kangaroo Feathers said:
Science isn't holy, but it's not a money making conspiracy, either.
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But it needs to be funded, so it is dependent on the rich guys, and they will dictate how their money is used to some degree.
I do think most scientists are the good guys, because they just love/believe science, like I do. But the bankers never give for free
 
ChristineM

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
stvdv said:
I still think it is amuzing. How can it be so harmful? Truth will always catch up with lies. For some evolution goes really slow, that's all.

What is truly upsetting, is that freedom of press allows to call these scientists. That's why I yesterday explained to @ChristineM why I am very careful believing what scienctists tell us nowadays ... science and money give sometimes "funny" results not always "accurate" results

They bring this news while bringing their book. That tells me enough ... so many millions of Christians love to buy their book. That, I think, is safe to claim "they for sure want to cash in". And it will show how many gullible people there still are. But it will help to get the Church even more empty soon
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And I explained to you why you are mistaken but never the less, you are welcome to your opinion
 
Kangaroo Feathers

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
stvdv said:
But it needs to be funded, so it is dependent on the rich guys, and they will dictate how their money is used to some degree.
I do think most scientists are the good guys, because they just love/believe science, like I do. But the bankers never give for free
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And that is a POTENTIAL flaw in the system. It's not justification to handwave any scientific information, however. Even the Wakefield claims, blatantly false and moneygrubbing as they were, needed to be empirically disproved, rather than merely handwaved.
 
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