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1 Corinthians 13:13.What does it mean to you?

Triumph

FREEDOM OF SPEECH
Before his conversion

And you cannot know that with any certainty that you're correct.

Anyhow, have a nice rest of the weekend.
Enjoy your weekend also.
Paul never converted from his Jewish beliefs that Jesus taught against.
To approve of the death of an innocent man for a reward is criminal and inequity.
Human sacrifice to a God is pagan and God never accepted any of them, that is why
Jesus was trying to change the beliefs of the Hebrew/Jews that were even sacrificing their children,
burning them alive to pay an imagined gambling debt and killing people for sins that are not true death penalty sins.
Jews killed a man for the simple act of picking up sticks on the Sabbath. Jesus taught them they had no God given right to do that
but Jews held on to their blood sacrifice of humans based on their traditions and manmade laws, not truth from God.
Mark 12:33
"And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is MORE than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices."
You do not need a human sacrifice to please God, to please God love everyone's God given right to life, do not kill them.
Treat everyone as beloved friends and family especially the Son of God, Jesus.
Jesus taught against human sacrifice and said, why do you not hear my words. I desire Mercy and NOT Sacrifice.
Jesus never approved of any child murder or the murder of anyone for sins that are in truth not sins but false manmade laws that need to be changed.
 
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YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Enjoy your weekend also.
Paul never converted from his Jewish beliefs that Jesus taught against.
To approve of the death of an innocent man for a reward is criminal and inequity.
Human sacrifice to a God is pagan and God never accepted any of them, that is why
Jesus was trying to change the beliefs of the Hebrew/Jews that were even sacrificing their children,
burning them alive to pay an imagined gambling debt and killing people for sins that are not true death penalty sins.
Jews killed a man for the simple act of picking up sticks on the Sabbath. Jesus taught them they had no God given right to do that
but Jews held on to their blood sacrifice of humans based on their traditions and manmade laws, not truth from God.
Mark 12:33
"And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is MORE than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices."
You do not need a human sacrifice to please God, to please God love everyone's God given right to life, do not kill them.
Treat everyone as beloved friends and family especially the Son of God, Jesus.
Jesus taught against human sacrifice and said, why do you not hear my words. I desire Mercy and NOT Sacrifice.
Jesus never approved of any child murder or the murder of anyone for sins that are in truth not sins but false manmade laws that need to be changed.
Can you please explain what you mean by "Paul never converted from his Jewish beliefs that Jesus taught against." What beliefs were those?
 

Triumph

FREEDOM OF SPEECH
Can you please explain what you mean by "Paul never converted from his Jewish beliefs that Jesus taught against." What beliefs were those?
There are many, here are a few examples,
Jesus taught water baptism removes sin. Paul upholds his traditions of blood sacrifice removes sin.
Jesus told women to teach their husbands the gospel learned from Jesus. So equality of gender is established by Jesus.
Paul told women to be silent and never teach their husbands anything because in Paul's traditional religion women are born in sin, but men are not.
Jesus said the Christ is NOT a son of Abraham, but Paul teaches the Christ is a son of Abraham supporting the traditions of his fathers of bloodline rule.
Jesus said call no man father so Paul calls Abraham the father of us all and Paul selects some men in his inferior church to have the title of father forcing people to call them father in total disobedience to the words of Jesus.
 

Bree

Active Member
1 Corinthians 13:13.What does it mean to you?I think it is a list of good things that a christian should focus on.:)

You shouldnt use the KJV bible. The translators insert the word 'charity' where it should be 'love'

Both the hebrew and greek manuscripts use the word 'love' in this verse.

This is just one example of why the KJV is not a good translation of the bible.
 

JonSL

Member
And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.


St. Paul is discussing the spiritual path. As people enter into the life of prayer and meditation, they begin accumulate spiritual qualities and begin to remove negative qualities.

St. Paul is discussing a state of being that occurs after many many years of prayer and meditation.

And in that state, one is filled with spiritual qualities. He is instructing others that while it is important to have one's internal peace and one's confidence in God and all these "personal" spiritual gifts, it is important not to forget our duties to others.

Because, if we forget our duties to others, God will call us out as being not true Christians, but people who are still addicted to selfishness, but a spiritual selfishness, rather than a material one.
 
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