10 Reasons to Call for a Minimum Wage of More than $10.10

[Yadon]

Down with the capitalist regime! Workers class rise! ☭☭☭☭Long live the motherland!!!☭☭☭☭

Raise the minimum wage, it's about time. 10 dollars doesn't cut it, It should be at least $15 as a bare low! People can barely live on minimum wage as it is, often taking multiple jobs just to barely make ends meet.

 

[BSM1]

That's funny, does the government now pick up the tab on the difference? Never heard that before. As I've said in the past, raising the minimum wage will result in less people on welfare/food stamps. Surprising that you aren't for it.

As far as your top 1% question, I could care less. I'd rather make 50k a year and live stress free instead of making 100k a year with little time to enjoy life and dreading waking up for work. It's all about quality of life for me.

The real question is this, why do you support the top 1% as a christian? You do realize that when you vote republican you are voting for that top. The illusion is that you think you're voting in your best interests. (I blame the propaganda).

If you fall into this "minimum wage" trap, that's all you'll ever be worth. To me that's a greater sin than succeeding in life-no matter how you define it. BTW what did Yeshua say about the "poor".

 

[Alceste]

What I'm having trouble understanding, is why some people (conservatives) think that it's ok for some people to not make enough money to live. I'd really like someone to be able to explain that to me.

Most of these people are descendants of people who thought there was nothing wrong with owning slaves - even found biblical justification for it. That explains it well enough for me.

 

[tytlyf]

If you fall into this "minimum wage" trap, that's all you'll ever be worth. To me that's a greater sin than succeeding in life-no matter how you define it. BTW what did Yeshua say about the "poor".

I've worked jobs that were minimum wage. I've worked jobs that payed much more. Classifying someone on minimum wage as a taker and has no initiative to make more money is ludicrous. The shame of it all is the large corporations don't give raises or when they do they are very little.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

BTW what did Yeshua say about the "poor".

According to your bible he said a lot. He was for helping the poor, the sick, the elderly and children. Your bible paints him as a "Liberal" in the true sense of the word. Without a doubt he was a "Progressive"...and much of what he taught could be construed as "socialism" in this day and time. He was definitely for less government but for good reasons. Said government of the time was not a democracy but ruled over the people as a dictatorship. Much of his disdain was directed toward the elite class who treated others as unequals.....What do you think your Yeshua said about the poor? We may have different interpretations of his teachings....:sad:

 

[dawny0826]

According to your bible he said a lot. He was for helping the poor, the sick, the elderly and children. Your bible paints him as a "Liberal" in the true sense of the word. Without a doubt he was a "Progressive"...and much of what he taught could be construed as "socialism" in this day and time. He was definitely for less government but for good reasons. Said government of the time was not a democracy but ruled over the people as a dictatorship. Much of his disdain was directed toward the elite class who treated others as unequals.....What do you think your Yeshua said about the poor? We may have different interpretations of his teachings....:sad:

Christ absolutely instructed to give lovingly to the poor. The bible also instructs to work hard and provide according to your means. The saying "if you wanna eat, you better work" is found in 2 Thessalonians.

God came down quite hard on the greedy elite. But, He also has disdain for liars and thieves.

Faith, according to scripture, without works is dead. Those of Christian faith are not supposed to be idle people in any sense according to scripture.

 

[Sunstone]

If you fall into this "minimum wage" trap, that's all you'll ever be worth.

It doesn't seem to me like a good idea to judge someone's worth on the basis of their earnings or wealth, except in a strictly financial sense.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Christ absolutely instructed to give lovingly to the poor. The bible also instructs to work hard and provide according to your means. The saying "if you wanna eat, you better work" is found in 2 Thessalonians.

I'm only talking about what the biblical Yeshua taught. I'm not talking about later additions and preachings by others. But I will agree that the biblical Yeshua, in the scriptures attributed to his sayings, did admonish people to work.

God came down quite hard on the greedy elite. But, He also has disdain for liars and thieves.

But how does the highlighted portion above fit this discussion? Let's not make assumptions about the working poor/middle class. Many aren't liars and thieves. Personally I see it as theft when the majority of the wealth is distributed from the bottom up where we see a few holding on to more wealth than the majority...and the wealth that's being distributed upward is off the backs of those working harder in this country than any other time in our history.


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[dawny0826]

But how does the highlighted portion above fit this discussion? Let's not make assumptions about the working poor/middle class. Many aren't liars and thieves. Personally I see it as theft when the majority of the wealth is distributed from the bottom up where we see a few holding on to more wealth than the majority...and the wealth that's being distributed upward is off the backs of those working harder in this country than any other time in our history.
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I meant that as a general statement. Christ imposed upon his followers the importance of charity and kindness, but, also reiterated that his followers are not to lie and steal.

I'm of the opinion that it's no less ugly for a wealthy man to hoard than it is for a poor man to sit idle. In other words, both are in the wrong and both contribute to our nation's problems.

I don't think there's a fix for this mess.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

I meant that as a general statement. Christ imposed upon his followers the importance of charity and kindness, but, also reiterated that his followers are not to lie and steal.

Ahh, OK.

I'm of the opinion that it's no less ugly for a wealthy man to hoard than it is for a poor man to sit idle. In other words, both are in the wrong and both contribute to our nation's problems.

I agree

I don't think there's a fix for this mess.

I agree. I see big money and dark money drowning out the voices of the majority. Many of our politicians on all sides of the isle are just along for the ride....:sad:

 

[esmith]

The CBO released a new report that says that raising the minimum wage to $10.10 a hour could help lift 900,000 out of poverty but could cost 500,000 jobs.

CBO report: Minimum wage hike could cost 500,000 jobs

 

[Dirty Penguin]

The CBO released a new report that says that raising the minimum wage to $10.10 a hour could help lift 900,000 out of poverty but could cost 500,000 jobs.

CBO report: Minimum wage hike could cost 500,000 jobs

Yeah, I read that. It will increase the spending power of nearly a billion workers...putting around $30 Billion Dollars in their pockets which will in turn cause viable businesses to produce and sell more goods and services which will in turn cause businesses to hire more people. Which will basically create jobs overall....


Edit: I meant (a million workers)...oops!! :areyoucra

 

[esmith]

Yeah, I read that. It will increase the spending power of nearly a billion workers...putting around $30 Billion Dollars in their pockets which will in turn cause viable businesses to produce and sell more goods and services which will in turn cause businesses to hire more people. Which will basically create jobs overall....

And there are those that accuse me of propaganda, yet here you are increasing the number of those employed at or below the minimum wage from approximately 3.6 million to 1,000,000,000. Yes you are making a joke, I would assume since no one is that ignorant. Why don't you just take the report a face value and be done with it or is it you do not want to accept the CBO report. Of course there are some of you that see the reduction in those working as good thing.....just think they can now get medicaid or subsidies. Have a good day.

 

[Alceste]

And there are those that accuse me of propaganda, yet here you are increasing the number of those employed at or below the minimum wage from approximately 3.6 million to 1,000,000,000. Yes you are making a joke, I would assume since no one is that ignorant. Why don't you just take the report a face value and be done with it or is it you do not want to accept the CBO report. Of course there are some of you that see the reduction in those working as good thing.....just think they can now get medicaid or subsidies. Have a good day.

esmith, it's pretty obvious he just misspelled million, which is the figure you yourself put forward.

 

[esmith]

esmith, it's pretty obvious he just misspelled million, which is the figure you yourself put forward.

Yes he just corrected himself. However the facts are the facts. I believe they said could help lift 900,000 out of poverty and that could cost 500,000 jobs. Now I do believe that there are 3.6 million workers who make the minimum wage or below. And from the report:

CBO examined the budget impacts of raising the minimum wage to $9 and $10.10. The report concluded that a $9 increase would lift 300,000 workers above the poverty line, but cost 100,000 new jobs as employers are expected to reduce workforces to make up for higher wages. A $10.10 increase would lift 900,000 workers above the poverty line, but cost 500,000 jobs.

From: Minimum wage work on the decline - Feb. 27, 2013

Workers toiling at the $7.25 federal minimum wage or less tend to be young, female, single and lacking a high school diploma.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Why don't you just take the report a face value and be done with it or is it you do not want to accept the CBO report. Of course there are some of you that see the reduction in those working as good thing.....just think they can now get medicaid or subsidies. Have a good day.

I'm fine with the CBO report. Like I said....jobs might be lost but spending will increase because people will have a little more income to spend which will spark businesses to make and or sell more goods and services which will foster businesses to hire people. This is no different than any other time we've raised the minimum wage....but here's the thing...while you might not like the federal government instituting a minimum wage increase..and you believe it should be left to the states...it's the states that are actually in front of the effort to raise minimum wages near or above what the feds want to raise it to. And it has been mentioned before....even by you...had it been pegged to inflation it would be at $10.10 right now....

Here's an interesting article....

What

 

[esmith]

I'm fine with the CBO report. Like I said....jobs might be lost but spending will increase because people will have a little more income to spend which will spark businesses to make and or sell more goods and services which will foster businesses to hire people. This is no different than any other time we've raised the minimum wage....but here's the thing...while you might not like the federal government instituting a minimum wage increase..and you believe it should be left to the states...it's the states that are actually in front of the effort to raise minimum wages near or above what the feds want to raise it to. And it has been mentioned before....even by you...had it been pegged to inflation it would be at $10.10 right now....

Here's an interesting article....

What

I have no problem with states raising the minimum wage, what I have a serious problem with is the Federal Government saying it has to be done. The Democrats are using this as a shiny object to take the voting public's mind off the poor performance of this administration as far as the economy goes and to deflect the problems with Obamacare. It is nothing but a political ruse.

 

[Revoltingest]

I have no problem with states raising the minimum wage, what I have a serious problem with is the Federal Government saying it has to be done. The Democrats are using this as a shiny object to take the voting public's mind off the poor performance of this administration as far as the economy goes and to deflect the problems with Obamacare. It is nothing but a political ruse.

You raise a question. Where in the Constitution is the fed authorized to regulate wages in the states?

 

[Dirty Penguin]

You raise a question. Where in the Constitution is the fed authorized to regulate wages in the states?

Hasn't really been an issue in a long time.....

Minimum wage | Wex Legal Dictionary / Encyclopedia | LII / Legal Information Institute

Minimum wage laws establish a base level of pay that employers are required to pay certain covered employees. The current federal minimum wage is $6.55 per hour. The laws consist primarily of federal and state statutes. When an employee is subject to both the state and federal minimum wage laws, the employee is entitled to the higher of the two minimum wages. Many states, including California, have a higher minimum wage which must be followed by local governmental agencies.

It's been upheld by the Supreme Court then and now....

 

[Dirty Penguin]

I have no problem with states raising the minimum wage

You seem like you do.

what I have a serious problem with is the Federal Government saying it has to be done.

Congress has the authority to do so. They've had this authority for decades now and that authority to do so is upheld by the Supreme Court.