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100 thousand Jews in NY protest against Zionist Entity and its Army

Akivah

Akivah

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Breathe

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
Akivah said:
I'm assuming you didn't actually read all your linked articles. This one above is NOT protesting settlements. In fact, they are protesting the proposed law that Orthodox Jews must join the Israeli army.
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How come NYC Orthodox Jews are protesting about this law, though? In case they decide to make aliyah?
 
Assad91

Assad91

Shi'ah Ali
Flankerl said:
Iam all in favour of not securing Haredim neighborhoods in case of open conflict.

Perhaps its been too long ago since Arabs massacred Haredim so they forgot about it. A few new memories should help with that.
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Sadly not much time has passed since the last massacre of Arab civilians, by the Israeli military dogs.
 
Matemkar

Matemkar

Active Member
Akivah said:
I'm assuming you didn't actually read all your linked articles. This one above is NOT protesting settlements. In fact, they are protesting the proposed law that Orthodox Jews must join the Israeli army.
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Are you for real? You are reading the newsline but not the article, and claiming I did not read it?

Protesters also say they're against Israeli settlements in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. They believe Israel should not exist until their Messiah arrives.
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And the first article I shared makes mention of some of their chants against zionist entity and its occupation and settlements.
 
Sha'irullah

Sha'irullah

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FOX news is not exactly reliable and in all honesty they are not a news agency but a comedic entertainment channel.

I can find no other source that is reliable like ABC, NY yet alone LA times that mentions issues regarding settlements. Sadly what you are doing is a form of intellectual dishonesty and exterior lying since anybody knows that FOX is not a news agency. If orthodox Jews made a sudden switch from their previous standpoints this would surprise me, a lot.
Also you said 100,00- thousand Jews, which is ridiculous as any such number would be news worthy enough to become breaking news. Also if you can do the math you would realize this would become a city wide traffic jam of monumental proportions.
You are using this number to perpetuate the usual lie that many Muslims make that support anti-Jewish(not anti-Zionists) propaganda. The "anti-Zionist" argument is getting old and is not honest in the slightest bit. If there is one thing I pride it is honesty and frankly not many religions or political espousers are honest but Islamic political propagandists are without moral awareness
 
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Sha'irullah

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
Assad91 said:
How can anyone forget?! Right. Anti zionism is really anti jew.
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No I am just saying that many Muslims have no sense of morality so they cannot make intellectually honest decisions and label anti-Zionism apart from Anti-Jewish
 
Flankerl

Flankerl

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Assad91 said:
Sadly not much time has passed since the last massacre of Arab civilians, by the Israeli military dogs.
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Oh my "Israeli military dogs". And massacre? You mean that hiccup in Gaza? Thats like the average day in Aleppo for the past 3 years.


Assad91 said:
Then again, you're one who finds comedy in the death of Arabs.
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I find it amusing when Arabs cry so much about the evil Jews killing around 15.000 Arabs in 66 years while they massacre eachother in Syria (140.000 people in 3 years) and you hardly hear anything about it from them.

Well except of course that everythings that is happening in Syria is the fault of the West who is of course secretly run by the Jews.
 
Matemkar

Matemkar

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the number I said is according to the first website. And the latter says 50 thousand which is not a little number either. Secondly, here's the jam and breaking news:

Thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews flock to lower Manhattan to protest Israel's proposed draft of religious citizens to its army - NY Daily News

And I did not share foxnews' report because I trust them. lol. I shared it on searching western websites sharing the same news, because I saw few people here not caring about islamic news websites. And it is disgusting you accuse people of immorality.

As for this crowd, I believe some of them are like that movement of Neturei Karta, not supporting the existence of a zionist state until their messiah comes, as fox news quoted. And they clearly tell zionism is against judaism. And some among them are not against the zionist state, yet, they are just wanting to enjoy themselves and have other people do the dirty work (And yes, other people, even the so-called muslims do their dirty work, an example would be Nusra and other al-Qaeda terrorists in Syria targeting the Yarmouk Palestinian Refugee Camp, there were more than 150 thousand Palestinians there but now it is 18 thousand because of these terrorists' attacks: http://en.alalam.ir/news/1573318 ).

In any case, none of these 50-100 thousand jews want to serve in the zionist army, be it because of their opposition of the zionist crimes, or fear of wealth-health loss in their service in the zionist entity and they prefer to have others do their dirty work.
 
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Matemkar

Matemkar

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You don't trust any sources. What do you accept as a reliable source? Your heart? The voices in your head? Really what? Tell me brother. What is a source I can trust according to you? And how would I believe it is moral? Since your understanding of morality about politics and mine are different, how can we find a common ground? I am open to suggestions. Totally concentrated on your arguments. Why Muslims are immoral to you but you are not, or the sources you trust are not? Enlighten me, please. Thanks.
 
Akivah

Akivah

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Matemkar said:
the number I said is according to the first website. And the latter says 50 thousand which is not a little number either. Secondly, here's the jam and breaking news:

Thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews flock to lower Manhattan to protest Israel's proposed draft of religious citizens to its army - NY Daily News

As for this crowd, I believe some of them are like that movement of Neturei Karta, not supporting the existence of a zionist state until their messiah comes, as fox news quoted. And they clearly tell zionism is against judaism. And some among them are not against the zionist state, yet, they are just wanting to enjoy themselves and have other people do the dirty work

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In any case, none of these 50-100 thousand jews want to serve in the zionist army, be it because of their opposition of the zionist crimes, or fear of wealth-health loss in their service in the zionist entity and they prefer to have others do their dirty work.
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Are you sure you are reading the linked article? It doesn't say the cause of the protest was any of the reasons that you'd like it to be.

Of the Israeli Orthodox young men who would be affected by a mandatory draft, he said, "These kids, a lot of them don't know how to hold a gun. They don't know what physical warfare is. Their whole world and their whole lifestyle is peace and love and in doing mitzvahs," he said, using the Yiddish word for good deeds.
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"We're all united against military service for religious men in Israel because it doesn't allow for religious learning," said Peggy Blier, an interior designer from Brooklyn.
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One person says that peace loving Orthodox wouldn't fit well in the Israeli army and another says that the time in the military would interfere with religious learning. Nothing here about zionism or being againt Israel's existence.
 
Badran

Badran

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icehorse

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
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One of the pictures in the first linked article was a picture of Boston...
 
Godobeyer

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
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Flankerl said:
Oh my "Israeli military dogs". And massacre?
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you say so , I agree



I find it amusing when Arabs cry so much about the evil Jews killing around 15.000 Arabs in 66 years while they massacre eachother in Syria (140.000 people in 3 years) and you hardly hear anything about it from them.

Well except of course that everythings that is happening in Syria is the fault of the West who is of course secretly run by the Jews.
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I got you
ah you compared ;)

Where are the people whom blamed me , when i compared between the crimes of Nazi and Zionists ?
 
Tali018

Tali018

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Matemkar said:
You don't trust any sources. What do you accept as a reliable source? Your heart? The voices in your head? Really what? Tell me brother. What is a source I can trust according to you? And how would I believe it is moral? Since your understanding of morality about politics and mine are different, how can we find a common ground? I am open to suggestions. Totally concentrated on your arguments. Why Muslims are immoral to you but you are not, or the sources you trust are not? Enlighten me, please. Thanks.
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From your perspective they are simply Orthodox Jews. So to make easier for you to comprehend in an Islamic view, each and every one considers themselves in one way or another is a Imam. So in your view does a Imam speak or fight? They speak. Do you understand now?
 
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