16 YO given permission to bare her breasts in movie

[Alceste]

In the sequel, "Behind The Red Green Door", a hot Brazilian interloper will arrive upon the scene. Leaving his home country to escape
the endless sexual escapades & raucous partying, he flees to the frozen north, only to discover that those mad Manitobans make Brazilians
look like the Amish. A frightened young thing, he is introduced to campy Canadian ways by those wily vixens Alcest & Kathryn. But this
movie ends on a tragic note, with young Luis sitting in an alley, an empty bottle of maple syrup in one hand, an empty poutine carton in
the other, & snow on his toqueless head.

Lol- sign me up!

 

[Songbird]

Actually, the relationship portrayed in this film for the breast-haver in question was between two teenagers, and the boob-displaying scene was very age-appropriate. IOW, she acted like a 16 Yo doing something a 16 YO would do.

Oh, that's not what I meant. I meant teens being aware that the actor was 16 - and the implications of adults sanctioning a 16-year-old's sexuality for public consumption. The breast thing is a whole different issue. If America could just tone down our hysteria about breasts.

 

[Songbird]

Lol- sign me up!

I'd star with you any day!

 

[Koldo]

It is a matter of personal choice. The restriction of individual freedoms based on arbitrary gender laws is not trivial. Women have fought in court and won in Canada to put an end to laws that discriminate against women vis-a-vis shirtlessness. It gets hot here in the summer.

I don't know Canadian culture and law. Are you saying that women walk around in the street [ not in the beach ] showing their breasts in the summer?

 

[Alceste]

I don't know Canadian culture and law. Are you saying that women walk around in the street [ not in the beach ] showing their breasts in the summer?

Totally. Why not? Men do it. It gets really hot.

 

[Koldo]

Totally. Why not? Men do it. It gets really hot.

Oh my god. Really?! :areyoucra

I live in a darn hot state and women don't walk around like that.
I used to work at a place that was ,by noon, 40 celsius almost every day.

If a woman walks in the streets around here showing her breasts there is surely something wrong with her.

 

[jarofthoughts]

[/INDENT]Question: Considering the importance of the movie---big name: writer (Alan Ball), director (Sam Mendes), major studio (Dream Works), and actors,(Kevin Spacey, Annette Bening, Mena Suvari, Chris Cooper, Wes Bentley, Allison Janney)---which lends a lot of legitimacy to the project, would you do the same if it was your daughter?

Given the context (American Beauty is one of my favourite movies and it presents a very important message) of the scene and how it was done, I would have no problems with it, given that my (hypothetical) daughter fully understood what she was doing.

Don't see what the fuzz is about really.

A teenage girl showing her boobs to her teenage boyfriend?
That can't be news...

 

[McBell]

Would you give permission if the production company was CornPorn Productions; the movie's name: [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]American Booty; [/FONT]written by Seymour Butts; Directed by Buck Naked; starring Lightning Rod Rodriguez, Amanda Huggenkiss, and Patty 'O Furniture?

You are again doing nothing but presenting an appeal to authority fallacy.
Or is it an appeal to popularity fallacy.

If you actually understood my answer, you would know that the fallacies you use to "legitimize" and make "important" the movie in question are completely irrelevant.

 

[McBell]

And there is. However, from Alceste's post it could be said that even showing breasts in the street would be a trivial thing.

No idea why you would make that leap.

 

[Valjean]

I agree with Alceste as well. Women have breasts. This fact is commonly known and in no way remarkable. Every four year old knows it. It's tediously mundane, boringly ordinary, a tempest in a teapot.
What purpose is served by pretending to keep this secret?

It's a big deal only if bluenoses make it a big deal. Reminds me of that campaign to require pants on dogs forty or fifty years ago.

 

[Koldo]

No idea why you would make that leap.

Read her post again.
And again, and again, and again.
I am sure you will eventually get it.

 

[Skwim]

You are again doing nothing but presenting an appeal to authority fallacy.
Or is it an appeal to popularity fallacy.

If I was making an actual argument, perhaps, but I wasn't. I was simply explaining my rational by posing a question, which you have yet to answer. So how about it, Mestemia.

Would you give permission if the production company was CornPorn Productions; the movie's name: "[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]American Booty"; [/FONT]written by Seymour Butts; Directed by Buck Naked; starring Lightning Rod Rodriguez, Amanda Huggenkiss, and Patty 'O Furniture?
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[McBell]

If I was making an actual argument, perhaps, but I wasn't. I was simply explaining my rational by posing a question, which you have yet to answer. So how about it, Mestemia.

Would you give permission if the production company was CornPorn Productions; the movie's name: "[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]American Booty"; [/FONT]written by Seymour Butts; Directed by Buck Naked; starring Lightning Rod Rodriguez, Amanda Huggenkiss, and Patty 'O Furniture?
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I did answer it.
Here is my answer AGAIN:

It would depend on a number of things.
For the scene in question, I would have also given my permission for her to do so, given she was ok with it.
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My apologies for not flat out stating that the inclusion of "big names" (which it sounds like is all that is needed to "legitimize" and make "important" a movie) plays not a part in my decision.

 

[McBell]

Read her post again.
And again, and again, and again.
I am sure you will eventually get it.

Feel free to jump to whatever conclusions you want.

I for one do not see how you can jump to the conclusion you did without taking her post out of context of the OP.

But to each their own.

 

[Father Heathen]

What is it about the human body that people find so traumatizing?

 

[McBell]

What is it about the human body that people find so traumatizing?

I have no idea.
It reminds me of the Parenting magazine that got hosed because people called a picture of a nursing baby porn.

 

[McBell]

The movie: Manitoban Minx
A torrid love quadrangle between Alceste, Mestemia, Koldo, Songbird & Skwim set in the Canadian wilderness.....burly
lumberjacks vie for the affections of the few women who dare venture into a savage land of raw animal passion....logs
will be rolled, massive trunks will be felled, axes will be wielded & lusty ballads will be sung to the tunes sproinged on a
taught & serpentine saw! Chests will be bared! Hidden desires aired! All in gorgeous technicolor.

I'm game.
But I will have to get you to sign a release form if I have to bear my chest.
Legalities you understand.

 

[Koldo]

Feel free to jump to whatever conclusions you want.

I for one do not see how you can jump to the conclusion you did without taking her post out of context of the OP.

But to each their own.

I am curious....
Have you actually seen the next posts of her?
She actually agrees that showing boobs in the street is fine.

:sarcastic

 

[Alceste]

What is it about the human body that people find so traumatizing?

Well, from a psychoanalytical perspective, people who have matured in a culture of sexual repression, prohibited from the natural development of their libidic impulses, are susceptible to becoming enflamed with lust in peculiar and sometimes inappropriate circumstances. Being raised to believe these sexual feelings are shameful, they are sublimated and transformed into moral outrage toward whatever or whoever caused the "shameful" feelings to arise. So, the mild spark of sexual arousal provoked and easily forgotten in normal people by, for example, the accidental revelation of Janet Jackson's nipple, becomes a legendary national outpouring of outrage at the entire entertainment industry. Same goes for teenage boobs in the movies.

 

[Skwim]

I did answer it.
Here is my answer AGAIN:

It would depend on a number of things.
For the scene in question, I would have also given my permission for her to do so, given she was ok with it.
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My apologies for not flat out stating that the inclusion of "big names" (which it sounds like is all that is needed to "legitimize" and make "important" a movie) plays not a part in my decision.

Fair enough.