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John1.12

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That doesn't say much...
If you believe that Jesus Christ is coming to rapture you out..
So where's the proof of evidence that Jesus Christ said himself that he's coming to rapture you out...
Otherwise all your doing is putting words in the mouth of Jesus Christ that he didn't say himself...
I don't play the " I only believe what Jesus said and nothing else ,game ' . I believe all 66 books of the bible.
 

Faithofchristian

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I don't play the " I only believe what Jesus said and nothing else ,game ' . I believe all 66 books of the bible.

I ask you can you give in what book and chapter and verses in the bible scriptures.

This includes all the books in the bible..
So where is it written that Jesus Christ said himself that he's coming to rapture people out..
If you say that Jesus Christ is coming to rapture people out..
Then your called by God's Word to prove what you say..
As written in
1 Thess 5:21-"Prove all things..
Therefore where's your proof of evidence that Jesus Christ said himself said anything about coming to rapture people out..
 

John1.12

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I ask you can you give in what book and chapter and verses in the bible scriptures.

This includes all the books in the bible..
So where is it written that Jesus Christ said himself that he's coming to rapture people out..
If you say that Jesus Christ is coming to rapture people out..
Then your called by God's Word to prove what you say..
As written in
1 Thess 5:21-"Prove all things..
Therefore where's your proof of evidence that Jesus Christ said himself said anything about coming to rapture people out..
I quoted the bible where it says .You keep going on about Jesus needing to have explicitly said it . This isn't my criteria, it's yours. My criteria is that all 66 books of the bible are from God . Your Bible must be thinner than mine.
 

Faithofchristian

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I quoted the bible where it says .You keep going on about Jesus needing to have explicitly said it . This isn't my criteria, it's yours. My criteria is that all 66 books of the bible are from God . Your Bible must be thinner than mine.

So there is no where in those 66 books of the bible...that Jesus Christ ever said that he's coming to Rapture people out..
 

John1.12

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So there is no where in those 66 books of the bible...that Jesus Christ ever said that he's coming to Rapture people out..
Name one place where Jesus says Jews and Gentiies would be in 'one body' ? I can keep going if you would like ? I have a long list of things Jesus didn't say , which is the silliest argument there is and it's fallacious to say the least . How about we go to the Ot and make an arguement for what God didn't say ? But is clearly revealed in scripture.
 

Faithofchristian

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Name one place where Jesus says he's come to save a Gentile ?

What exactly does that have to do with Jesus Christ supposedly to rapture people out...which is nothing more than man's teachings and doctrines in the churches..

As there is No where that Jesus Christ ever said himself that he's coming to Rapture people out..
 

Faithofchristian

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Name one place where Jesus says Jews and Gentiies would be in 'one body' ? I can keep going if you would like ? I have a long list of things Jesus didn't say , which is the silliest argument there is and it's fallacious to say the least . How about we go to the Ot and make an arguement for what God didn't say ? But is clearly revealed in scripture.


For your information in the book of Romans Chapter 11,
Disciple Paul was given the Inspiration..
For all scriptures were given by the Inspiration of God..

Therefore disciple Paul was given the Inspiration to write down in the book of Romans Chapter 11,
That both Jews and Gentiles shall be grafted into one..

For a Christian and you do not know these things..that's amazing..
Remember that all scripture was given by the Inspiration of God.
2 Timothy 3:16..
Now back to the question..
Where is it written that Jesus Christ said himself that he's coming to Rapture people out.....where exactly is that written at..
 

John1.12

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What exactly does that have to do with Jesus Christ supposedly to rapture people out...which is nothing more than man's teachings and doctrines in the churches..

As there is No where that Jesus Christ ever said himself that he's coming to Rapture people out..
Again ,i just gave a couple of things that were not exactly what Jesus Christ ever said himself . This is a terrible argument . The criteria is , does the bible say that believers will be caught up to meet Jesus in the air ? The answer is obviously, yes ,I believe as the verses i originally gave ,say .
 

John1.12

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What exactly does that have to do with Jesus Christ supposedly to rapture people out...which is nothing more than man's teachings and doctrines in the churches..

As there is No where that Jesus Christ ever said himself that he's coming to Rapture people out..
It has everything to do with Jesus . Jesus Gave the revelation to Paul on the full explanation of the rapture . Just like God Gave Moses a bunch of stuff to reveal .
 

John1.12

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For your information in the book of Romans Chapter 11,
Disciple Paul was given the Inspiration..
For all scriptures were given by the Inspiration of God..

Therefore disciple Paul was given the Inspiration to write down in the book of Romans Chapter 11,
That both Jews and Gentiles shall be grafted into one..

For a Christian and you do not know these things..that's amazing..
Remember that all scripture was given by the Inspiration of God.
2 Timothy 3:16..
Now back to the question..
Where is it written that Jesus Christ said himself that he's coming to Rapture people out.....where exactly is that written at..
Yes Paul is given the 'mystery 'of the Jew / Gentile ' one body, which was not known prior. Just like the ' rapture '. Your argument literally just fell apart there . Jesus does not exactly say what he gives Paul to reveal later . Not Just the rapture and the Jew / gentile ,one body . There s many other things that Jesus did not reveal .
John 16:12

“I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.”
 

rational experiences

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If a book is written that states a contradiction then it does.

God loves you.
Children which we all are living innocent.

Then claims an innocent baby was born to be sacrificed to save life.

Isn't life being saved in reality by human sex? To be reborn. Returned.

Life survived itself by heavenly conditions.

Basic human common sense.

What if the heavenly conditions changed and life gets sacrificed. Do you agree? Especially if humans caused it!

A lot of sensible humans asked why does the bible preach about two gods as types and two of Jesus.

The name Jesus is Jesus. Yet Jesus he says was wrong in a status statement.

The status Jesus born an innocent.

Teaching all children are innocent.

Do you agree or disagree?

It was the wrong Jesus says the statement.

What is the right Jesus?
What is the right God?

You have a story that you follow reading. A baby that is taught it's life had a special purpose. It was innocent. It was reborn given new life.

Should life be sacrificed is what father asked of you.

Babies are babies to a living parent loving they are special.

A theme. A book about themes what is relative and what is not relative.

Is sacrifice of life relative?

No. The wrong answer. Did you accept that it should occur is your own choice. Or did you argue.

Are you asked to question the details and the given answers to save yourself in your own life by what you believe?

What you choose to follow and agree with.

I know I never agreed with the sacrifice. What about you?

Do you say God my father is testing me by words? Do I agree or disagree?

Which Jesus do you agree with?
 

Faithofchristian

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Again ,i just gave a couple of things that were not exactly what Jesus Christ ever said himself . This is a terrible argument . The criteria is , does the bible say that believers will be caught up to meet Jesus in the air ? The answer is obviously, yes ,I believe as the verses i originally gave ,say .

The correct Hebrew translation for
( Air ) is ( Ruwach) which means ( Spirit)

Therefore we shall meet the Lord Jesus Christ in the ( Spirit)

Seeing that at the coming of The Lord Jesus Christ we all shall be changed from this body of flesh and blood to that of the Spirit..to meet the Lord Jesus Christ in the Spirit.
As written in
1 Corinthians 15:51-52,
51--"Behold, I show you a mystery, We shall not all sleep, but we shall be changed"

52--" In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump, for the Trump shall sound, and the dead shall rise incorruptible, and we shall be changed"

The question is.
What is the last trump, and where can the last Trump be found in the New Testament Scriptures..
Also who's the dead in reference to.
Who are the dead????
 

Faithofchristian

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It has everything to do with Jesus . Jesus Gave the revelation to Paul on the full explanation of the rapture . Just like God Gave Moses a bunch of stuff to reveal .

It has a lot to do with things.
Especially when People say that The Lord Jesus Christ is coming to Rapture people out..
So therefore where is it written that Jesus Christ said himself that he's coming to Rapture people out.
In what book and chapter and verses in the bible scriptures where The Lord Jesus Christ said himself that he's coming to Rapture people out.
Where is that written at.
 

Faithofchristian

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Yes Paul is given the 'mystery 'of the Jew / Gentile ' one body, which was not known prior. Just like the ' rapture '. Your argument literally just fell apart there . Jesus does not exactly say what he gives Paul to reveal later . Not Just the rapture and the Jew / gentile ,one body . There s many other things that Jesus did not reveal .
John 16:12

“I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.”

There you go again...Saying that Jesus Christ is coming to Rapture people out.

But you fail to give in what book and chapter and verses in the bible scriptures where The Lord Jesus Christ said himself that he's coming to Rapture people out..

Therefore where is it written that Jesus Christ said himself that he's coming to Rapture people out.
If you say that Jesus Christ is coming to Rapture people out.
And in those 66 books of the bible that you given proves that God is against those who teach people they will be Raptured ( Fly) to save their souls.
 
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Faithofchristian

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I don't play the " I only believe what Jesus said and nothing else ,game ' . I believe all 66 books of the bible.

That doesn't prove that Jesus Christ said himself that he's coming to Rapture people out..
Where is it written that Jesus Christ said himself that he's coming to Rapture people out.
In what book and chapter and verses in the bible scriptures where exactly it's written that Jesus Christ said himself that he's coming to Rapture people out.
 

John1.12

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The correct Hebrew translation for
( Air ) is ( Ruwach) which means ( Spirit)

Therefore we shall meet the Lord Jesus Christ in the ( Spirit)

Seeing that at the coming of The Lord Jesus Christ we all shall be changed from this body of flesh and blood to that of the Spirit..to meet the Lord Jesus Christ in the Spirit.
As written in
1 Corinthians 15:51-52,
51--"Behold, I show you a mystery, We shall not all sleep, but we shall be changed"

52--" In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump, for the Trump shall sound, and the dead shall rise incorruptible, and we shall be changed"

The question is.
What is the last trump, and where can the last Trump be found in the New Testament Scriptures..
Also who's the dead in reference to.
Who are the dead????
What does 'meeting the Lord Jesus Christ 'in the Spirit 'even mean ? And why doesn't it SAY that ? If it really means ' in the air ' ,how should it have said it ?
 

John1.12

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It has a lot to do with things.
Especially when People say that The Lord Jesus Christ is coming to Rapture people out..
So therefore where is it written that Jesus Christ said himself that he's coming to Rapture people out.
In what book and chapter and verses in the bible scriptures where The Lord Jesus Christ said himself that he's coming to Rapture people out.
Where is that written at.
Its in the same place where Jesus said he will be ' in us ' ;that Jews and Gentiles would be in 'one body ' and many other mysteries not revealed by Jesus himself .Hinted at , hidden ,yes but not revealed.

Ephesians 3:5-7
King James Version

5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is NOW revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; ( NOTICE WHO ITS REVEALED BY ? JESUS ? no . Is it true then ? Jesus never said it ?

6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

7 Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.
 
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John1.12

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It has a lot to do with things.
Especially when People say that The Lord Jesus Christ is coming to Rapture people out..
So therefore where is it written that Jesus Christ said himself that he's coming to Rapture people out.
In what book and chapter and verses in the bible scriptures where The Lord Jesus Christ said himself that he's coming to Rapture people out.
Where is that written at.
1 Corinthians 15:51

“Behold,I !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHOW YOU A MYSTERY ; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,”

I SHOW . WHO SHOWS ? WHOS THE ' I' ?
JESUS ? OR PAUL ?
 
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