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240 days left until the world comes to an end

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
Does that mean that all religions will end in late October and that we can get on with a Scientific view of the world instead? :D
Heh :D

More like, the truth of the message of ultra-orthodox literalistic Christianity, the true genuine Christianity™, will be lost from that day.. I guess. :D
 

JMiller

Member
Hope this isn't old news yet.
I read what some of the followers are saying and doing. It is actually mind boggling that they can not snap out of it.
I read one of the followers said the earthquake did happen. He said it was a spiritual earthquake. That starting in New Zealand and making its way around the globe the entire planet had in mind Jesus, judgment, rapture etc... He said no other time in history has the planet been focused like that on these things. He said true most were laughing, mocking, and some were scared, but to him the earth did quake like no time before, or ever again in the future.

Is it a mental or brain defect that if they see their delusion they will crack, so instead the keep justifying the delusion?
I expected a spin once it came and left, but it seems this kind of talk is going to suck his followers right back in until October.
 

Songbird

She rules her life like a bird in flight
doppelgänger;2472926 said:
If you are vigilantly against religion, you owe Harold Camping a debt of gratitude. Guys like Camping are a wrecking ball for faith. They do way more damage to the edifices of faith than Dawkins/Dennett/Harris combined could ever dream of accomplishing. They bring out the absurdity - the sheer ridiculousness of the entire enterprise - and lay it bare, writhing and dying in the light.

I would think so, but no Christian I could find thought Camping was remotely accurate or reflective of their faith. People shrugged him off as a peculiarity unworthy of all the attention he was getting.
 

The_Evelyonian

Old-School Member
Hope this isn't old news yet.
I read what some of the followers are saying and doing. It is actually mind boggling that they can not snap out of it.

I read one of the followers said the earthquake did happen. He said it was a spiritual earthquake. That starting in New Zealand and making its way around the globe the entire planet had in mind Jesus, judgment, rapture etc... He said no other time in history has the planet been focused like that on these things. He said true most were laughing, mocking, and some were scared, but to him the earth did quake like no time before, or ever again in the future.

Is it a mental or brain defect that if they see their delusion they will crack, so instead the keep justifying the delusion?

Not a defect, per se, but a form of cognitive dissonance. People will bend over backwards to hold onto their beliefs, especially if they feel their eternal salvation depends on them. Now, they were expecting a massive earthquake on May 21st. It didn't happen. So, rather than admit that the belief they had was wrong, they simply twist it until they get ideas like "spiritual earthquake" and "invisible judgement day".

I expected a spin once it came and left, but it seems this kind of talk is going to suck his followers right back in until October.

No doubt some of his followers will fly the flag all the way to October, but I doubt he'll have as large a following as he did before.
 
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Raskolnikov

New Member
I would think so, but no Christian I could find thought Camping was remotely accurate or reflective of their faith. People shrugged him off as a peculiarity unworthy of all the attention he was getting.

That's true. Never underestimate humans' power to compartmentalize. "Obviously, that rapture nonsense is ridiculous, but my Christian beliefs definitely aren't."
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
BBC News - Rapture: Harold Camping issues new apocalypse date
Over the weekend, he said, he had returned to the scripture and it had "dawned" on him that a "merciful and compassionate God" would spare humanity by compressing the apocalyptic destruction into a shorter time frame.
But he insisted 21 October had always been the end-point of his own chronology...
Asked if he had any advice to offer those who had given away their material wealth in the belief the world was about to end, Mr Camping said they would cope.
"We just had a great recession. There's lots of people who lost their jobs, lots of people who lost their houses... and somehow they all survived," he said.
"We're not in the business of giving any financial advice," he added.
"We're in the business of telling people maybe there is someone you can talk to, and that's God."

:facepalm:
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Asked if he had any advice to offer those who had given away their material wealth in the belief the world was about to end, Mr Camping said they would cope.
"We just had a great recession. There's lots of people who lost their jobs, lots of people who lost their houses... and somehow they all survived," he said.
"We're not in the business of giving any financial advice," he added.
"We're in the business of telling people maybe there is someone you can talk to, and that's God."

:facepalm:

I knew it. Most likely many others are saying the same thing. Camping has no remorse or concern in the least.
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
Can't he be sued & forced to give the money back?

no. he's protected under the right of free religious speech...
while people like bernie madoff go to jail...
a lie is a lie is a lie...apparently religion is above the law of common decency
 

Darkness

Psychoanalyst/Marxist
no. he's protected under the right of free religious speech...
while people like bernie madoff go to jail...
a lie is a lie is a lie...apparently religion is above the law of common decency

So, you would hold people accountable for their religious beliefs? In other words, Bernie Madoff did not actually believe that there was money to back up the investments he siphoned off. Camping apparently believes what he preaches; or at least there is no way to say that he doesn't. If he has taken some of the Family Radio finances for his personal aggrandisement, then he could rightly be convicted of embezzlement and fraud, but not because he had a failed prediction.
 

GabrielWithoutWings

Well-Known Member
BBC News - Rapture: Harold Camping issues new apocalypse date
Over the weekend, he said, he had returned to the scripture and it had "dawned" on him that a "merciful and compassionate God" would spare humanity by compressing the apocalyptic destruction into a shorter time frame.
But he insisted 21 October had always been the end-point of his own chronology...
Asked if he had any advice to offer those who had given away their material wealth in the belief the world was about to end, Mr Camping said they would cope.
"We just had a great recession. There's lots of people who lost their jobs, lots of people who lost their houses... and somehow they all survived," he said.
"We're not in the business of giving any financial advice," he added.
"We're in the business of telling people maybe there is someone you can talk to, and that's God."

:facepalm:

I knew it. Most likely many others are saying the same thing. Camping has no remorse or concern in the least.

I honestly can't understand how his house hasn't been burned to the ground at this point. He cost people their houses and savings by manipulating them via their spiritual beliefs and then shows zero responsibility.
 
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