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300 babies and 200 women killed in Gaza in 13 days

sindbad5

Active Member
when some Israeli or Zionist guy say we seiging 1.5 million people in gaza for 2 years and we killed and continue killing 1000 (between them 300 babies and children and 200 women) to enforce Hamas to stop rockets,
do you have doubts about that? do you have the feeling that things are not that simple ?

tell me what you think
 

Panda

42?
Premium Member
Yes I would quite like the source, while civilian casualty's have been high, and far far to high in my opinion, I find this figure hard to believe.
 

EiNsTeiN

Boo-h!
BBC said:
The Ministry of Health in Gaza said 1,013 people have died in the conflict which started 19 days ago. More than 300 of the dead are said to be children, 76 are women and more than 4,500 people have been injured, of whom 1,600 are children and 678 are women.
There it's..And that was on 14 Jan..

By today, 13 Israelies died, only 3 of those were civilians..

BBC said:
Health officials in Hamas-controlled Gaza say at least 1,105 Palestinians have been killed and 5,100 wounded since Israel launched an operation on 27 December to end rocket attacks on its territory. Thirteen Israelis - three of them civilians - have died, while 233 soldiers have been wounded, the Israeli army says.
Even though Hamas do not use developed weopons, they managed to keep most of the Israeli casualities from the army..
While Israel is randomly striking Gaza, causing mostly an increase in the civilians' casualities..

I wonder who is the terrorist in this war so far :rolleyes:
 
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kai

ragamuffin
so if people think that its a lie that Israeli troops are there to stop the rockets what is the truth?

what possible reason would Israel have for entering Gaza "again"


please tell me why you think this action is taking place? in simple terms why is this action taking place right now?


we have the Israeli side of the story so what is Hamas's side? what does Hamas say the Israelis are doing there?
 
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EiNsTeiN

Boo-h!
Well, it's not about whats the lie and whats the truth..

Did any of this accomplish anything?!...Obviously no..
Will any of this accomplish anything?!...No as well!

So now, you have two options, either to consider this a lie, or to consider it a stupid useless operation...What do you think?
 

kai

ragamuffin
Well, it's not about whats the lie and whats the truth..

Did any of this accomplish anything?!...Obviously no..
Will any of this accomplish anything?!...No as well!

So now, you have two options, either to consider this a lie, or to consider it a stupid useless operation...What do you think?


well this is what i think.

Israel says its in Gaza to stop the rockets , i have heard no other rational explanation from Hamas as to why the Israelis are there, so i am forced to beleive the Israelis. for now.

now some of you say the Israelis are lying so if they are lying tell me why they are lying?

i am asking you for your alternative reason for the incursion. what are they doing there?
 

herushura

Active Member
Source, please.

Your a Jew and you act like you dont care, all you say about this "Source, please" what source do you need random places are being bombed in gaza and yes children and babies are getting killed, and you jews dont care because Israel is soo precious to you and you believe they innocent all because of corrupt bible verses.
 

kai

ragamuffin
I dont believe they lied...I'm for the second option:D


ok Einstein.


you see i dont know why they would be there otherwise? if they just wanted to kill Palestians they dont need ground troops.

the kind of operation that they are carrying out is probably the most difficult operation a conventional force could carry out, in fact if any other country undertook this kind of operation in this kind of environment i think the civilian deaths would be around ten times what they are.

if they are not there to stop the rockets ,i dont see the Israelis risking that many men on the ground.Other than taking the war to Hamas any other explanation just doesnt make sense.
 

EiNsTeiN

Boo-h!
ok Einstein.


you see i dont know why they would be there otherwise? if they just wanted to kill Palestians they dont need ground troops.

the kind of operation that they are carrying out is probably the most difficult operation a conventional force could carry out, in fact if any other country undertook this kind of operation in this kind of environment i think the civilian deaths would be around ten times what they are.

if they are not there to stop the rockets ,i dont see the Israelis risking that many men on the ground.Other than taking the war to Hamas any other explanation just doesnt make sense.
Well, Israel thinks that with such an operation, the palestinians should learn the lesson to stop supporting Hamas because otherwise, thats what's gonna happen to them..

I'm pretty much sure that whats Israel doing now is increasing the support for Hamas there..
 

kai

ragamuffin
Well, Israel thinks that with such an operation, the palestinians should learn the lesson to stop supporting Hamas because otherwise, thats what's gonna happen to them..

I'm pretty much sure that whats Israel doing now is increasing the support for Hamas there..


In that case i think we shall be back here in about a year, discussing this again.
 

Elessar

Well-Known Member
Your a Jew and you act like you dont care, all you say about this "Source, please" what source do you need random places are being bombed in gaza and yes children and babies are getting killed, and you jews dont care because Israel is soo precious to you and you believe they innocent all because of corrupt bible verses.

Excuse me, but sources are necessary. He never provided a source - he claimed "300 babies and 200 women killed in Gaza". Now, I see sources saying 300 children and 200 women as of the day, but not 300 babies. I asked for a source saying 300 babies had been killed, as he claimed in the topic title, and there isn't one; because 300 babies hadn't died. 300 children had, yes, and it is a tragedy, but 300 babies is still misinformation.

One of my greatest teachers in secondary school, a Muslim, no less, taught me -

Don't never let me catch you doing that. Never, ever make a statement which is wrong, even by mistake. Double-check, every time. If you don't know something, say you don't know it. If you make a statement, just one statement, that can be disproven, even just a little bit, everything you've ever said'll can be thrown right out the window by the other side.

This, I believe, is possibly the most important lesson I ever learned in four years of secondary school.
 

EiNsTeiN

Boo-h!
Excuse me, but sources are necessary. He never provided a source - he claimed "300 babies and 200 women killed in Gaza". Now, I see sources saying 300 children and 200 women as of the day, but not 300 babies. I asked for a source saying 300 babies had been killed, as he claimed in the topic title, and there isn't one; because 300 babies hadn't died. 300 children had, yes, and it is a tragedy, but 300 babies is still misinformation.

One of my greatest teachers in secondary school, a Muslim, no less, taught me -

Don't never let me catch you doing that. Never, ever make a statement which is wrong, even by mistake. Double-check, every time. If you don't know something, say you don't know it. If you make a statement, just one statement, that can be disproven, even just a little bit, everything you've ever said'll can be thrown right out the window by the other side.

This, I believe, is possibly the most important lesson I ever learned in four years of secondary school.
I will have to appreciate that..
 

idea

Question Everything
I think the reason there are not more Jewish fatalities is because Jewish people value life more, they make bomb shelters, they don’t strap bombs onto their children, they don’t hide under the skirts of their women, they give their women machine guns! I don’t blame the Jewish people for their civilian casualties. I blame Hamas for not protecting their people.

 

Eutopos

Peace
Excuse me, but sources are necessary. He never provided a source - he claimed "300 babies and 200 women killed in Gaza". Now, I see sources saying 300 children and 200 women as of the day, but not 300 babies. I asked for a source saying 300 babies had been killed, as he claimed in the topic title, and there isn't one; because 300 babies hadn't died. 300 children had, yes, and it is a tragedy, but 300 babies is still misinformation.

One of my greatest teachers in secondary school, a Muslim, no less, taught me -

Don't never let me catch you doing that. Never, ever make a statement which is wrong, even by mistake. Double-check, every time. If you don't know something, say you don't know it. If you make a statement, just one statement, that can be disproven, even just a little bit, everything you've ever said'll can be thrown right out the window by the other side.

This, I believe, is possibly the most important lesson I ever learned in four years of secondary school.

Well, yea, i apologize but i knew what he meant, he just lost the words, or couldnt describe it, but 300 babies or 300 children, (i mean after all there is no such a big diff. bet. babies and children) it is the same, it is called (MURDER) in both cases...
 
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