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opensoul7

Active Member
The Trailer http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/300/trailer1/small.html
I can't wait to see this movie. I love the History, the battle of Thermopylae is my favorite historic battle followed by Massada . it is based on Frank Miller's Graphic novel about the battle of thermopylae . The visual feel of the movie looks great , am I the only one excited about this flick ? This is a must see on the big screen!
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Im going to go watch it. I have been excited since I first saw the trailor on opening night for ******* 2.
The Spartans are my favorite society in history, so for me, this is a must see.
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
Oh, I'd love to see it. Even if it didn't look all that good (and it looks amazing but then again I'm a Frank Miller fan), I'd be there just to see Gerard Butler and David Wenham. ;)




Peace,
Mystic
 

Booko

Deviled Hen
Not necessarily! I love Frank Miller's work. The guys is a genius in the realm of graphic novels.

I just happened not to have seen this trailer. I'll probably have to wait to see it until it hits Netflix, though. But I'll stick it in my queue just to be sure I don't forget.
 

opensoul7

Active Member
ahh the crowd is getting larger ! popcorn anyone ? Frank Miller is a genius in the comic world .And his work crosses over into movies pretty well .
 

Djamila

Bosnjakinja
Hollywood's revisionist films about Greece's revisionist myths don't appeal to me. :D

In today's films, the hero of those telling the story can defeat an entire army with a single bullet, while that entire army can fire machine guns for 45 minutes and never hit him.

Some of these historical records are equally realistic.
 

BFD_Zayl

Well-Known Member
Djamila said:
Hollywood's revisionist films about Greece's revisionist myths don't appeal to me. :D

In today's films, the hero of those telling the story can defeat an entire army with a single bullet, while that entire army can fire machine guns for 45 minutes and never hit him.

Some of these historical records are equally realistic.
aye, but 300 spartans really did hold off an entire persian army, the spartans lost of course, but put up one hell of a fight, eventually resorting to teeth and nails, while the enemy decided to cut them down with bows. a spartan was trained from like what...age 4 to fight?
 

Ðanisty

Well-Known Member
I want to see this, but it will probably have to wait for dvd because I haven't got enough money to go to the movies. I'm actually spoiling myself because I just saw Pan's Labyrinth and I'm determined to see Ghostrider this weekend.
 

Ðanisty

Well-Known Member
opensoul7 said:
How was Pan's Labyrinth ? I want to see that as well , it looks brilliant !
I loved it! I was really quite graphic. You know those scenes in movies where you know they're going to cut away before they start sawing a guys leg off or whatever? Pan's Labyrinth never cut away when you expected...you always got to see a little more than you were comfortable with.

One thing you have to be prepared for is the sub-titles. The whole movie is in Spanish. I know some people have a problem with that. I never mind because I'm an anime addict...lol.

The story also has a little less fantasy than you might expect. A lot of it takes place in "reality." It was very good though. If you aren't squeemish, I definitely recommend it.
 

opensoul7

Active Member
I don't mind subtitles at all , I love Foreign Films and Anime .I will have to go see it then it sounds great . I heard that it was based on Mexican History and a young girl witnessing atrocities , her way to deal with it ,is to slip into this fantasy world.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
In today's films, the hero of those telling the story can defeat an entire army with a single bullet, while that entire army can fire machine guns for 45 minutes and never hit him.
In the battle of Thermopoly, that damned near happened. 300 Spartans fought so fiercly, as Zayl pointed out, they resorted to fist and tooth when thier weapons and armor started breaking. A traitor that revealed a hidden path could not even stop thier might. In the end, it was the cowardly rain of arrows that finished off the Spartan army.
That battle also nearly proved Sun Tzu wrong when he said "A smaller army can put up a valiant fight, but in the end is destined to be captured by the larger army."
 

Djamila

Bosnjakinja
Luke Wolf said:
In the battle of Thermopoly, that damned near happened. 300 Spartans fought so fiercly, as Zayl pointed out, they resorted to fist and tooth when thier weapons and armor started breaking. A traitor that revealed a hidden path could not even stop thier might. In the end, it was the cowardly rain of arrows that finished off the Spartan army.

That battle also nearly proved Sun Tzu wrong when he said "A smaller army can put up a valiant fight, but in the end is destined to be captured by the larger army."

I'm sure that's exactly how it happened. :)

This is what you get when the losers write the history.
 

BFD_Zayl

Well-Known Member
Djamila said:
I'm sure that's exactly how it happened. :)

This is what you get when the losers write the history.
losers? how could they write? they all died in the battle, unless you are referring to the persians, for whom it was only a phyrric victory.
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Djamila

Bosnjakinja
BFD_Zayl said:
losers? how could they write? they all died in the battle, unless you are referring to the persians, for whom it was only a phyrric victory.

The earliest records of this battle are from Greek writers/historians - that's the only place we find this reference to millions of Persian soldiers and 300 Greek ones, and in turn those who referenced these Greek writers. Persian accounts of the battle estimate their forces being between 250,000 - 800,000, and the Greek forces not much less in number. It's also not a terribly important battle in their history - but is remembered as a battle where Greeks had every topographic advantage. The whole Persian army was like a fish in a barrel from the Greek position, and even though they were being slaughtered they pressed on and defeated the Greeks - is their collective memory. They also focus much more on the tens of thousands of Greeks who joined the Persians to fight.

It's similar to the battle of Kosovo Polje in modern-day Kosovo. For Serbians, it was an epic loss - all the mythical majesty of fighting to the death against the Osmanli army and losing with honor. They don't bother to remember that there were Bosnian and Albanian soldiers there as well. They don't bother to remember the Osmanli leader was stabbed in the back. And they don't bother to realize the battle was of little or no importance to Turkish collective memory. It was just another they won on the way to Vienna.

And it's the same with Gorazde. Hero's City, it's called, in Bosnia because it was one of the only UN-protected "safe havens" to actually survive the genocide. Srebrenica, Zepa, etc... were all conquered and massacred. It's remembered as some epic outpost of Bosnian defiance and our will to survive and is today the only major, Muslim-populated city surviving in the whole Drina river valley. The truth is the city just went about it's day to day life. It was being shelled every day, thousands were dying, thousands more starved to death, and life was a big, miserable mess until the peace deals were signed and the war ended. There's no heroism or defiance, everyone there would've fled if they had been afforded an opportunity to do so.`
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It's also not a terribly important battle in their history - but is remembered as a battle where Greeks had every topographic advantage.
While it very true the Spartans had a great advantage with Heaven and Earth, it is also remembered as a battle to comimerate the bravery of the Spartans, and their fight to help keep the Persian army out. Thier are even 300 statues at the battle scene, one to honor each soldier. And with thier advantage of being enclosed, a smaller army could hold off a larger army, if skilled enough. It evens the numbers of who is actually fighting. A bad comparison, but the line formations during the 1700-1800s would be similiar. You may have thousands of troops, but only a certain number of them are actually fighting. The others are just waiting behind, ready to step in for a fallen ally. The main problem with that comparison, with guns, even the most skilled would die or fall from a shot. With close range melee combat, the skilled held an advantage of making themeselves survive.
 
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