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5 Lies You’ve Been Told About the US Legalizing Marijuana

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
How do spiders smoke marijuana? With a bong?

With a really tiny one.

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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
So, in your mind, having a drink of alcohol = getting drunk. Is that right? There is no honorable reason to have a glass of wine?

And you support that?
I drink a little wine on weekends to mellow and feel good so technically yes. Alcohol equates to being drunk. Even if it's a slight buzz.

As for the mob, it's hard to tell the difference these days. I'm fond of saying, There is no mob, because they all got elected".
 

Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
Because it isn't true.
I don't want to get high and I don't think other people should either. This is the voice of experience talking.

I nevertheless oppose stupid and destructive wars, such as The War on USA citizens Who Use Drugs. We could better fix the underlying problems if it weren't for the stupid war.
Tom

Well, then it's a good thing that you are not in charge, isn't it?

People are adults; they get to decide what they want to do or not, regardless of nanny-types who wish to control everyone else's lives; but never their own... never that.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Well, then it's a good thing that you are not in charge, isn't it?

People are adults; they get to decide what they want to do or not, regardless of nanny-types who wish to control everyone else's lives; but never their own... never that.
What are you talking about?
I am in favor of legalizing and then some tax/regulatory stuff. Similar to tobacco or alcohol. Then focus on reducing the abuse. I don't approve of using, but I don't think it important either.
Tom
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
I've noticed the pro marijuana camp has no problem lying about marijuana so they can get high more easily, for instance the oft quoted BS about no one has ever died from smoking marijuana, obviously people have been so high that they got involved in fatal traffic accidents just like alcohol, though arguably less so. The there are lies about medical uses for marijuana that are just an excuse to get high, not to downplay the real medical uses of marijuana, which are not as great as the stoners would like us to believe.

It's only a lie when you take it completely out of context... which is kind of a lie itself. I think that you're perfectly aware that when people say no one has ever died from pot they mean that no one has ever overdosed on pot. When they cite contrasting statistics indicating how many people die of alcohol abuse, they don't include all the people who die in car accidents while drunk.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
I think marijuana should be legalized but taxed heavily, and I think the taxes on alcohol should be raised, everyone says moderation is the key, and not to abuse drugs or alcohol, well higher taxation will make that possible and easier to encourage, we already have high taxation on cigarettes, and they don't even get you high like alcohol or pot, I'm in favour of legalizing and taxing marijuana similar to cigarettes, marijuana is incredibly cheap if you want to use it in moderation, the only ones complaining about the price are stoners that smoke it 24/7. Marijuana is a considerably cheaper high than alcohol, it cost about $1 to get high on pot if you don't smoke all the time, alcohol cost like $4 to get drunk, the argument that everything should be legalized has big flaws, heroin is natural, should heroin be legalized, should we flood the market with cheaper heroin, same goes for marijuana, increasing the amount of marijuana smoked, and increasing the number of smokers should not be our goal, same goes for users of alcohol.
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
Why don't people ever admit outright that they just want to get high outright instead of going through all this?

Planly put, "I want to be high".

Simple and short.

Like people who say, "I want to get drunk".

I hate being high. Literally every time I smoke I look down on myself both through cultural guilt and personal weakness, I hate that it makes me laugh at dumb ****, I hate that when I smoke at night, which is more for sleep, my thoughts become scattered and confused. I hate taking my nightly pain pill too, and sometimes even my ssri and anti anxiety meds. But I keep doing them because they keep me from a physical and emotional breakdown. Sadly the one that helps all my problem most thoroughly I still have against me for jobs, and indeed I can lose mine.

And I don't drink for the same reason, except added that alcohol doesn't help.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm just as against alcohol, I think the solution is high taxation of both pot and alcohol, they're too cheap, Its too cheap to throw your life away, if you really had to pay for the substances you might think twice about throwing your life away and/or practice some moderation.
I've worked on a smokeshop counter for at least several years. Despite it containing all sorts of warnings and taxed to high heaven, you wouldn't believe the backflips the poor do to just to afford their precious ciggies. Or maybe you would.
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
I think marijuana should be legalized but taxed heavily, and I think the taxes on alcohol should be raised, everyone says moderation is the key, and not to abuse drugs or alcohol, well higher taxation will make that possible and easier to encourage, we already have high taxation on cigarettes, and they don't even get you high like alcohol or pot, I'm in favour of legalizing and taxing marijuana similar to cigarettes, marijuana is incredibly cheap if you want to use it in moderation, the only ones complaining about the price are stoners that smoke it 24/7. Marijuana is a considerably cheaper high than alcohol, it cost about $1 to get high on pot if you don't smoke all the time, alcohol cost like $4 to get drunk, the argument that everything should be legalized has big flaws, heroin is natural, should heroin be legalized, should we flood the market with cheaper heroin, same goes for marijuana, increasing the amount of marijuana smoked, and increasing the number of smokers should not be our goal, same goes for users of alcohol.

Yes, all drugs should be legal. The only people who benefit from keeping drugs illegal are drug dealers, the DEA, private prisons, prison guards, and big pharma.
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Alcohol equates to being drunk.
You've never known anyone who drank alcohol without becoming drunk?

How much are you willing to pay for the system that arrests, prosecutes and sentences people for possessing marijuana? The war on drugs costs billions of dollars, and has ruined the lives of countless productive citizens. As the Cheat Sheet article notes, with legalization law enforcement costs fall, law enforcement resources are freed up to focus on serious crimes that truly harm people, and there might even be (already) an association with lower rates of homicide and assault. At least one study has shown a reduction deaths due to opioid overdoses in states that have decriminalized or otherwise legalized marijuana. (Ask me for it.) And, of course, as the article notes, Colorado, Washington and Oregon are rolling in cash from taxes. Massachusetts and California will soon follow. So is continuing the war on tokers worth giving all that up?
 
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