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"60 percent of heterosexual women are attracted to other women"

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Biblical types are always telling us that being gay is a choice rather than an orientation, that's why they want gays to "pray it away".

So if it's a choice then it should work the other way round too, straight men should be able to pray and convert to gay. Hurrah!
You tell that .
Give us scripture that telling being gay is choice.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
You tell that .
Give us scripture that telling being gay is choice.

This question wan't directed at me but I must say that I haven't seen any
scripture in the Christian Bible directed at gays.
Except:
Leviticus 18:22 - Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination.
and others here:
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bible-Verses-About-Being-Gay/
Seems to be a few.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

About condemning others.
Romans 2:1-5 - Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. (Read More...)


Is being gay a choice however?
I doubt that.
 
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Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
You tell that .
Give us scripture that telling being gay is choice.

It's what some Biblicals argue, the "pray away the gay" wallahs - take it up with them. Some say that being gay is just BAD, others says that being gay is sort of OK but only if you stay celibate.
Though apparently gay sex is fine if you're a woman, presumably because the Bible authors were men and rather liked the idea.

Go figure.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
Hey, you're hugging a man!

Yes. I have no doubt about my sexuality thus hugging another man does not threaten
my heterosexual "self ".
Being as I'm in addiction recovery we ALL hug one another.
Why?
Well simply because we may never see one another again.
So dire is addiction.
I really, really, LIKE hugging the girls.:D
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
This question wan't directed at me but I must say that I haven't seen any
scripture in the Christian Bible directed at gays.
Except:
Leviticus 18:22 - Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination.
and others here:
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bible-Verses-About-Being-Gay/
Seems to be a few.
Comments?
I think Abrahamic religons forbid that.
is these verse consider as clear prohibited to gay ?

I do know why this because debatable issue especially among Christians.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
It's what some Biblicals argue, take it up with them. Some say that being gay is just BAD and WICKED, others says that being gay is sort of OK but only if you stay celibate. Go figure.
I think Bible is not allow, it's forbid gay relation. so where is the argue ?
I mean based on what ?
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
I believe the Leviticus 18:22 verse pretty clear.
Recall that "I" judge not.
Isn't in my job description.
@Godobeyer
Just google up information on what the Koran and Christian Bible says about being
homosexual.
Islam has some ......................well, radical, verses and beliefs about how to treat
gays.
Like killing them.:confused:
:confused:

Islam goes beyond merely disapproving of homosexuality. Sharia teaches that homosexuality is a vile form of fornication, punishable by death.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/homosexuality.aspx
^^^ Note the photo of the suspected homosexual in mid drop.
OUCH!
 
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Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
I think Bible is not allow, it's forbid gay relation. so where is the argue ?
I mean based on what ?

No good asking me, I think the Bible is nonsense. I think it was written by a load of primitive patriarchal homophobes on hallucinogens, and I'm amazed that it's pronouncements on sexuality are given any credence in the 21st century. If there is a supreme being I'm pretty sure he/she/it wouldn't give a flying fart what people get up to in the bedroom.

But we seem to have drifted off the topic somewhat. ;)
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
If there is a supreme being I'm pretty sure he/she/it wouldn't give a flying fart what people get up to in the bedroom.
But we seem to have drifted off the topic somewhat. ;)


Bawwwwwwwww-hawwwwwwwww.

"flying fart". R.O.T.F.L.M.A.O.
Spit coffee allllll over my keyboard.
Awwww man! Now we'll both get in trouble.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Yes. I have no doubt about my sexuality thus hugging another man does not threaten
my heterosexual "self ".
Being as I'm in addiction recovery we ALL hug one another.
Why?
Well simply because we may never see one another again.
So dire is addiction.
I really, really, LIKE hugging the girls.:D
So you're one of the normal ones, eh.
I'm uncomfortable with anyone hugging me.
Btrw, I appreciate your respecting this, & your never having tried to hug me.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
So you're one of the normal ones, eh.
I'm uncomfortable with anyone hugging me.
Btrw, I appreciate your respecting this, & your never having tried to hug me.

hummmmmm?????????????
Perhaps some latent undisclosed sexual issues???
Freud don'cha'know?
That pervert equated everything to sex.
Could be you're just normal. Sorta.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
hummmmmm?????????????
Perhaps some latent undisclosed sexual issues???
Freud don'cha'know?
That pervert equated everything to sex.
Could be you're just normal. Sorta.
I prefer to think that I'm variant of normal....just not into touching.
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
Yes. I have no doubt about my sexuality thus hugging another man does not threaten
my heterosexual "self ".
Being as I'm in addiction recovery we ALL hug one another.
Why?
Well simply because we may never see one another again.
So dire is addiction.
I really, really, LIKE hugging the girls.:D

Ha, you have no idea how often we men hug each other here in Saudi Arabia without having a doubt to threaten our heterosexuality. We even kiss loudly, call each other darling and similar and sometimes hold hands. As for girls... I wish I could do those with girls :D
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
Ha, you have no idea how often we men hug each other here in Saudi Arabia without having a doubt to threaten our heterosexuality. We even kiss loudly, call each other darling and similar and sometimes hold hands. As for girls... I wish I could do those with girls :D

Woooonderful!
Thank you for that post!
When I was a kid and parents had reunions with dad's people everyone called us
kids, darling, honey, baby, and such.
Dad had 14 siblings giving me 64 1st cousins on his side alone.
2nd cousins number in the hundreds.
I plan on getting all together and start our own political party to take over the
country.:D
 

Smart_Guy

...
Premium Member
They'll be queuing up for a hug now. :p
Trust me they shouldn't.
Don't ask :expressionless:

Woooonderful!
Thank you for that post!
When I was a kid and parents had reunions with dad's people everyone called us
kids, darling, honey, baby, and such.
Dad had 14 siblings giving me 64 1st cousins on his side alone.
2nd cousins number in the hundreds.
I plan on getting all together and start our own political party to take over the
country.:D
Thank you for that post too. I have this unsure stereotype that in the West families aren't as connected to each other to have such feelings, but what you're saying makes me feel good. I get along so much with my cousins and siblings (typically we all in this culture) and I wish I had this many of them.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
Trust me they shouldn't.
Don't ask :expressionless:


Thank you for that post too. I have this unsure stereotype that in the West families aren't as connected to each other to have such feelings, but what you're saying makes me feel good. I get along so much with my cousins and siblings (typically we all in this culture) and I wish I had this many of them.

Good to hear positive things from one who follows Islam.
Sadly the West hears way too much negative.
I guess only negative is deemed news worth.
Thank you my friend.
 
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