616---The Number of the Beast

[12jtartar]

Skim,
I am afraid that I am wasting my time trying to help you understand anything, because you seem willfully blind.
If you really want to understand first, that there is a very good reason to compare Bibles. The truth is ALL Bibles contain mistakes, because it is impossible for a human being to translate, or even copy the entire Bible without making a mistake. Even though mistakes are in the Holy Scriptures they can easily be found by comparing Bibles, because they will not all have the same mistakes. If twenty Bibles say one thing and another says something else, most likely the one, is wrong!!!
The sign 666, means that whatever it stands for is very imperfect, for 6 is man's number, making three sixes three times worse, which is the worse in the Scriptures.
If you have more than a nodding acquaintance with the Scriptures you would understand from the descriptions that 666 stands for The United Nations, which will, in a short time become the Eighth King, mentioned at Revelation 17:11. This king receives his powers and authority from the ten kings, which means, from all the other kingdoms on the earth. The Eighth King is spoken of as existing then not existing then existing again, which is exactly the way the UN started as the League of Nations, then went away during WW2, 1939-1945, then came back as the United Nations, in 1945, Revelation 17:8,11. The Bible speaks of this King receiving his Kingdom differently than other Kingdoms. Other Kingdoms attained their Kingdom by conquering the last Kingdom, but this Eighth King will have his Kingdom GIVEN to him, buy the ten kings, Revelation 17:11-13, 16,17.
The 666 is the United Nations!!!
The United Nations is also the scarlet beast the the Great Harlot is riding!!!
The Great Harlot pictures the whole world empire of false religion, and her daughters stand for all the individual religions on the earth.
If you read and study closely the 17 chapter of Revelation, you will understand that what I said is the ONLY explanation that fits all the information given throughout the Holy Scriptures.
Other Scriptures pertaining to the same things no the same time period, are in Daniel 7:24-27, 8:23-25, 12:9-12, Revelation 13:11-18.
The Seventh King is the Anglo-American world power, as can be seen by Revelation 17:9-11. All the seven heads represent all the Kingdoms throughout history that had connections to the Jews, God's then chosen people, they were, Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medes and Persians, Greece, Rome, Anglo-American, then the 8th. The Eighth King fights against Jesus, and that brings on Armageddon.

 

[allfoak]

Skim,
I am afraid that I am wasting my time trying to help you understand anything, because you seem willfully blind.
If Religious Forums really want to understand first, that there is a very good reason to compare Bibles. The truth is ALL Bibles contain mistakes, because it is impossible for a human being to translate, or even copy the entire Bible without making a mistake. Even though mistakes are in the Holy Scriptures they can easily be found by comparing Bibles, because they will not all have the same mistakes. If twenty Bibles say one thing and another says something else, most likely the one, is wrong!!!
The sign 666, means that whatever it stands for is very imperfect, for 6 is man's number, making three sixes three times worse, which is the worse in the Scriptures.
If you have more than a nodding acquaintance with the Scriptures you would understand from the descriptions that 666 stands for The United Nations, which will, in a short time become the Eighth King, mentioned at Revelation 17:11. This king receives his powers and authority from the ten kings, which means, from all the other kingdoms on the earth. The Eighth King is spoken of as existing then not existing then existing again, which is exactly the way the UN started as the League of Nations, then went away during WW2, 1939-1945, then came back as the United Nations, in 1945, Revelation 17:8,11. The Bible speaks of this King receiving his Kingdom differently than other Kingdoms. Other Kingdoms attained their Kingdom by conquering the last Kingdom, but this Eighth King will have his Kingdom GIVEN to him, buy the ten kings, Revelation 17:11-13, 16,17.
The 666 is the United Nations!!!
The United Nations is also the scarlet beast the the Great Harlot is riding!!!
The Great Harlot pictures the whole world empire of false religion, and her daughters stand for all the individual religions on the earth.
If you read and study closely the 17 chapter of Revelation, you will understand that what I said is the ONLY explanation that fits all the information given throughout the Holy Scriptures.
Other Scriptures pertaining to the same things no the same time period, are in Daniel 7:24-27, 8:23-25, 12:9-12, Revelation 13:11-18.
The Seventh King is the Anglo-American world power, as can be seen by Revelation 17:9-11. All the seven heads represent all the Kingdoms throughout history that had connections to the Jews, God's then chosen people, they were, Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medes and Persians, Greece, Rome, Anglo-American, then the 8th. The Eighth King fights against Jesus, and that brings on Armageddon.

@Skwim doesn't need any help. What he is doing is exactly what he wants to do. Why would he need help? I suspect he is learning a great deal from what he is doing.

 

[Yohanan ben Yaaqov]

That is nonsense. Only the N.T is in Greek and some Aramaic. The scholars that translate the Bible, including the O.T., know Hebrew better than you do. Some of them are Jewish.

I was born in Haifa Eretz Yisraél where I lived and was educated until thirteen years of age, Hebrew is my native tongue. I was also a Papyrologist for eighteen years and have Bachelor’s Degrees or higher in nine different languages which include Masters Degrees in both Biblical and Modern Hebrew. So yes I do know a lot more about Hebrew than your chr-stian translators/liars. It is highly illogical to spew nonsense out of your own ignorance.

The Hebrew Scriptures have absolutely nothing to do with your man-made pagan religion, or your fictional god-man hero, even if they were hi-jacked/stolen by the Roman Emperor that invented your false religion. So do not even try to include them among your fictional Greek fairy tale. And do not insult me again.

 

[omega2xx]

I was born in Haifa Eretz Yisraél where I lived and was educated until thirteen years of age, Hebrew is my native tongue. I was also a Papyrologist for eighteen years and have Bachelor’s Degrees or higher in nine different languages which include Masters Degrees in both Biblical and Modern Hebrew. So yes I do know a lot more about Hebrew than your chr-stian translators/liars. It is highly illogical to spew nonsense out of your own ignorance.

Not true. Learning to speak the language does not make one an expert in it. To become an expert in it , and I am sure you are, you had to study for years. Gentiles are just a capable of studying a language as you are. Also some Bible translators are Jews. It is beneath your dignity to call them liars, unless you have some proof. Keep this discussion civil or forget it.

The Hebrew Scriptures have absolutely nothing to do with your man-made pagan religion, or your fictional god-man hero, even if they were hi-jacked/stolen by the Roman Emperor that invented your false religion. So do not even try to include them among your fictional Greek fairy tale. And do not insult me again.

When you learn some manners, get back to me.

 

[Yohanan ben Yaaqov]

These verses are written in Greek.

Precisely, which is why in my original post I stated that Hebrew numerology has nothing to do with this. Someone else brought up Hebrew numerology, I just clarified that it is immaterial to this particular subject matter. And my most recent post was in regards to someone making personal insults directed at me.

 

[Yohanan ben Yaaqov]

Not true. Learning to speak the language does not make one an expert in it. To become an expert in it , and I am sure you are, you had to study for years. Gentiles are just a capable of studying a language as you are. Also some Bible translators are Jews. It is beneath your dignity to call them liars, unless you have some proof. Keep this discussion civil or forget it.



When you learn some manners, get back to me.

When someone deliberately alters something to fit their own personal hidden agenda, they are a liar. The proof is the dozens of chr-stian translations that deliberately bastardize the Hebrew language to promote their own theological bias.

Et toi mon ami are the one who needs to learn some manners.

 

[whirlingmerc]

Some say Jesus in greek is 888 and so completely exceeds perfection of 777
and 666 completely falls short

I think something in this direction is true, man usurping God. Man made on the 6th day

 

[Super Universe]

John the Baptist had a vision/dream/nightmare while he was in his jail cell awaiting his eventual execution. John, being a primitive human of the time, had no understanding of how complicated the universe is. He saw things that he probably should not have seen, high level angels sitting in judgement over other angels. He saw angelic records, one of which denotes that the Earth is the 616th planet to have a life form achieve sentience in this section of the universe. John relayed his vision to one of his visiting followers who wrote it all down.

The number is 616 and it is the number of the Earth. There is nothing evil about it.

 

[habiru]

I like this video about the Antichrist. It says that the Antichrist is going to come from a religion that opposes the scriptures. An din this video that it says that he is going to be known as the impostor and which Obama isn't what he really pretends to be. Even his birth-certificate is fraudulent. He said that there will be three of them, and I believe that the other is Soros and ?. Soros and Obama claims to be the one to save the world. This trinity of evil are trying their best to stop the Christian moment.
I had a page that talks about a number system that they uses as some sort of game. I got to find it again.

 

[omega2xx]

Some say Jesus in greek is 888 and so completely exceeds perfection of 777
and 666 completely falls short

I think something in this direction is true, man usurping God. Man made on the 6th day

Good thinking

And man, 6, being incomplete until God,1. is included, making the person a 7, and making them spiritual complete.

666 shows the unholy trinity, Satan, the beast and the false prophet, are all short of being spiritually complete or perfect.

 

[whirlingmerc]

The first commandments is about de-godding God, unthroning God and so I lean toward 666 being along those lines, ultimately an attempt to unthrone God

Yes there are many contrasts in Revelation

The lamb and the beast
The sea of glass and the raging sea
The triune God who was and is and is to come and the beast who was and is not and is going to the lake of fire...

I don't put any stock in Nostradumas

 

[Glaurung]

So, what's the consequence of this age old mistake in the Bible?

Going from memory, it's believed to be the result of a spelling variation for Nero Caesar. As for the consequences concerning Christian belief... None. Textual variations in the manuscript corpus is hardly breaking news.

So the number, whether 666, 616, or 1492 is inconsequential to Christian theology. Is this correct?

What consequence should it have? It's one variant in a handful of early manuscripts, and as such it's hardly proof that the 666 reading is wrong.

 

[MJFlores]

18 Anyone who has understanding can find the meaning of the beast’s number. This requires wisdom. This number is the number of a man. It is 666.

This number is the number of a man.
It would require understanding
It is the beast number
It is 666

Since you took it out from the Bible, Rev 13:18
You have to understand the Bible is all about religion
You also have to understand it speaks of the beast and false prophet
It is the number of a man and the beasts number.

In other versions of the Bible, it says:

Revelation 13:18 New International Version (NIV)

This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666.

So we need a calculator and during John's time, the Romans have their numeric systems:

Someone holds the title : vicarius filii dei

In my opinion, the numbers add up.

 

[omega2xx]

This number is the number of a man.
It would require understanding
It is the beast number
It is 666

Since you took it out from the Bible, Rev 13:18
You have to understand the Bible is all about religion
You also have to understand it speaks of the beast and false prophet
It is the number of a man and the beasts number.

In other versions of the Bible, it says:

Revelation 13:18 New International Version (NIV)

This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666.

So we need a calculator and during John's time, the Romans have their numeric systems:

Someone holds the title : vicarius filii dei

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In my opinion, the numbers add up.

Actually you need the numbering system of the Jews and the Greeks, where each letter in their alphabet is given a numerical value. Then you can take any name, give each letter its numerical value, add them up, and if the total is 666, that person is the anti-Christ.

Satan: Greek alphabet

Chi - X - 600
Xi-E- 60
Stigma - 6
Total _____666___

Jesus

 

[12jtartar]

In Revelation 13:1-2 and 11-18 we read:

The Beast From the Sea

1 Then I saw a beast coming up out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads. There was a crown on each of its horns. It had an evil name written on each head. 2 This beast looked like a leopard, with feet like a bear’s feet. It had a mouth like a lion’s mouth. The dragon gave the beast all of its power and its throne and great authority.

The Beast From the Earth

11 Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth. He had two horns like a lamb, but he talked like a dragon. 12 This beast stood before the first beast and used the same power the first beast had. He used this power to make everyone living on the earth worship the first beast. The first beast was the one that had the death wound that was healed. 13 The second beast did great miracles. He even made fire come down from heaven to earth while people were watching.

14 This second beast fooled the people living on earth by using the miracles that he had been given the power to do for the first beast. He ordered people to make an idol to honor the first beast, the one that was wounded by the sword but did not die. 15 The second beast was given power to give life to the idol of the first beast. Then the idol could speak and order all those who did not worship it to be killed. 16 The second beast also forced all people, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to have a mark put on their right hand or on their forehead. 17 No one could buy or sell without this mark. (This mark is the name of the beast or the number of its name.)

18 Anyone who has understanding can find the meaning of the beast’s number. This requires wisdom. This number is the number of a man. It is 666.
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As noted below, 666 has become quite a significant number. Perhaps the most widely known and feared number in the entire Bible. A symbol of the Anti-Christ.

​

But maybe its bad rep is wholly undeserved.

Lloyd, John & Mitchinson, John, The Book of General Ignorance:
Everything You Think You Know is Wrong. New York. Harmony Books, 2006. p 79

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So, what's the consequence of this age old mistake in the Bible?


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Skwim,
The reason 666 is correct is, it is for a reason. Notice that the Bible says that it is a man's number, Revelation 13:18.
In the Bible,the number 7 is used as a perfect number. The number 6, a man's number is imperfect, just as man is imperfect.
The reason that 666 is the number of this Beast, is because it is started by man, and the Beast is very bad in God's eyes, and three 666's is to the third degree, which is the worst that the Bible uses for anything. The first Beast mentioned causes the start of this other Best who wants everyone to have the Mark of the Beast, either on their forehead, or on their hand. This Beast that gives breath and life to the other Beast is tha Anglo-American world power, the last head of the seven headed scarlet colored Beast, in Revelation chapter 17. The Great Harlot is riding on the image of the first Beast, and she is a symbol for the World Empire of False Religion.The first Beast, that gave the image life, is also called the False Prophet, because it gets the whole world to join this Beast, 666, which will become the United Nations. The United Nations is extremely bad in God's eyes, because of the terms used for it, such as; The Last, Best hope for mankind. Even worse, some call the United Nations, The Political Expression of God's Kingdom on Earth. That is the reason for the number 666, and no other number fits as this one does. Remember, Jesus said that his Kingdom is no part of this world, John 18:33-36. The United Nations becomes the 8th King mentioned at Revelation 17:6-11. The 10 Kings make up the whole world of Nations, who give their power and authority to the United Nations, the 8th and last King from mankind. The United Nations leads the world against The Lamb, Jesus, which leads to Armageddon!!!

 

[omega2xx]

Skwim,
The reason 666 is correct is, it is for a reason. Notice that the Bible says that it is a man's number, Revelation 13:18.
In the Bible,the number 7 is used as a perfect number. The number 6, a man's number is imperfect, just as man is imperfect.
The reason that 666 is the number of this Beast, is because it is started by man, and the Beast is very bad in God's eyes, and three 666's is to the third degree, which is the worst that the Bible uses for anything. The first Beast mentioned causes the start of this other Best who wants everyone to have the Mark of the Beast, either on their forehead, or on their hand. This Beast that gives breath and life to the other Beast is tha Anglo-American world power, the last head of the seven headed scarlet colored Beast, in Revelation chapter 17. The Great Harlot is riding on the image of the first Beast, and she is a symbol for the World Empire of False Religion.The first Beast, that gave the image life, is also called the False Prophet, because it gets the whole world to join this Beast, 666, which will become the United Nations. The United Nations is extremely bad in God's eyes, because of the terms used for it, such as; The Last, Best hope for mankind. Even worse, some call the United Nations, The Political Expression of God's Kingdom on Earth. That is the reason for the number 666, and no other number fits as this one does. Remember, Jesus said that his Kingdom is no part of this world, John 18:33-36. The United Nations becomes the 8th King mentioned at Revelation 17:6-11. The 10 Kings make up the whole world of Nations, who give their power and authority to the United Nations, the 8th and last King from mankind. The United Nations leads the world against The Lamb, Jesus, which leads to Armageddon!!!

Good post. Also consider that 666 points to the unholy trinity---Satan, the anti-christ and the false prophet, showing they are not spiritually complete.

Since you like to find truth in numbers consider this if you haven't already.

As you say, man's number is 6(created on the 6th day) God's number is 1(only 1 God). 7 symbolizes spiritual completion.

Man alone is not spiritually complete. man,6 , with God, 1 =7. Man with God is spiritually complete.

 

[MJFlores]

Skwim,
The reason 666 is correct is, it is for a reason. Notice that the Bible says that it is a man's number, Revelation 13:18.
In the Bible,the number 7 is used as a perfect number. The number 6, a man's number is imperfect, just as man is imperfect.
The reason that 666 is the number of this Beast, is because it is started by man, and the Beast is very bad in God's eyes, and three 666's is to the third degree, which is the worst that the Bible uses for anything. The first Beast mentioned causes the start of this other Best who wants everyone to have the Mark of the Beast, either on their forehead, or on their hand. This Beast that gives breath and life to the other Beast is tha Anglo-American world power, the last head of the seven headed scarlet colored Beast, in Revelation chapter 17. The Great Harlot is riding on the image of the first Beast, and she is a symbol for the World Empire of False Religion.The first Beast, that gave the image life, is also called the False Prophet, because it gets the whole world to join this Beast, 666, which will become the United Nations. The United Nations is extremely bad in God's eyes, because of the terms used for it, such as; The Last, Best hope for mankind. Even worse, some call the United Nations, The Political Expression of God's Kingdom on Earth. That is the reason for the number 666, and no other number fits as this one does. Remember, Jesus said that his Kingdom is no part of this world, John 18:33-36. The United Nations becomes the 8th King mentioned at Revelation 17:6-11. The 10 Kings make up the whole world of Nations, who give their power and authority to the United Nations, the 8th and last King from mankind. The United Nations leads the world against The Lamb, Jesus, which leads to Armageddon!!!

The U.N. is the 666, the beast?

I beg to disagree. It would be out of context in the Book of Revelations of Jesus Christ. The book contains symbolism and the characters what they have done. It should be based on historical facts not presumptions of what will be.

First you have to identify who is the harlot

And the beast, the false prophet and the dragon.

And then you will find the meaning of the number 666

 

[WhoIsBeast 750]

13:18

13*18
234+432 666

 

[Wandering Monk]

In Revelation 13:1-2 and 11-18 we read:

The Beast From the Sea

1 Then I saw a beast coming up out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads. There was a crown on each of its horns. It had an evil name written on each head. 2 This beast looked like a leopard, with feet like a bear’s feet. It had a mouth like a lion’s mouth. The dragon gave the beast all of its power and its throne and great authority.

The Beast From the Earth

11 Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth. He had two horns like a lamb, but he talked like a dragon. 12 This beast stood before the first beast and used the same power the first beast had. He used this power to make everyone living on the earth worship the first beast. The first beast was the one that had the death wound that was healed. 13 The second beast did great miracles. He even made fire come down from heaven to earth while people were watching.

14 This second beast fooled the people living on earth by using the miracles that he had been given the power to do for the first beast. He ordered people to make an idol to honor the first beast, the one that was wounded by the sword but did not die. 15 The second beast was given power to give life to the idol of the first beast. Then the idol could speak and order all those who did not worship it to be killed. 16 The second beast also forced all people, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to have a mark put on their right hand or on their forehead. 17 No one could buy or sell without this mark. (This mark is the name of the beast or the number of its name.)

18 Anyone who has understanding can find the meaning of the beast’s number. This requires wisdom. This number is the number of a man. It is 666.
​

As noted below, 666 has become quite a significant number. Perhaps the most widely known and feared number in the entire Bible. A symbol of the Anti-Christ.

​

But maybe its bad rep is wholly undeserved.

Lloyd, John & Mitchinson, John, The Book of General Ignorance:
Everything You Think You Know is Wrong. New York. Harmony Books, 2006. p 79

​

So, what's the consequence of this age old mistake in the Bible?


.

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<tosses hornet's nest, then runs away> LOLOL

 

[CG Didymus]

To Baha'is that is referring to the year 666 AD when militant Islam began and true Islam was subverted.

CE 666 Mu’awiya proclaims as the First UmayyAD Caliph CE 666–749 UmayyAD Caliphate (Damascus)

But the Bible also proclaims Muhammad and Islam to be from God and Ali as the true successor not the Umayyad Caliphate.

Are you sure?

The Umayyad Caliphate ruled the Islamic Empire from 661-750 CE. It succeeded the Rashidun Caliphate when Muawiyah I became Caliph after the First Muslim Civil War. Muawiyah I established his capital in the city of Damascus where the Umayyads would rule the Islamic Empire for nearly 100 years.​