$85,210

[Thief]

No major war for 75 yrs, nukes have been a good investment.

As for changes-
Everyone knows how to fix the schools,
manage defense and balance the budget
just like every creationist is a expert on
geology and Bible interpretin'.

lumping too many people together

but then again......how a politician views the economy.....
is biblical

 

[ecco]

Obama added 8.59 trillion
Trump added 6.7 Trillion

Part of Obama's "added debt" was to pull the Country out of the massive recession caused by Republican failure to provide oversight.

Trump inherited a booming economy and added two trillion to the debt with his tax cut for the wealthy and the Corporations. A move that Democrats will need to reverse.

 

[Suave]

That's really sad.

I consider my daughter's strong work ethic to be a blessing. I am hopeful this might steer her away fron some of the troubles her father got into at age 18.

 

[Suave]

Not at all... Biden's math is new math! And your statement was how Republicans spend while you keep a blind eye on Obama et al.

The national debt was less than GDP during the Obama presidency, whereas, the national debt was greater than GDP when the orangutan like great ape was president.

 

[Revoltingest]

I know. I was there. And I remember people being scared and frightened of what never came.

Because it could'a.
And it nearly did a few times.

So? China and America are the two pigs running their farms, looking really no discernibly different from the other animals running their farms.
America depends on China. China depends on America. Sam or Xi can't do much to each other without shooting themselves in the foot over it.

War isn't always waged based upon what makes sense.
Emotion & misunderstanding also rule.

The only thing it's been useful for is the proliferation and spread of nuclear weapons, materials, and waste. It's was useful for fueling the unknowns of a potential rogue nuclear terrorist attack. It dumped barrels of nuclear waste in the ocean. And it brought a whole new pandoras box of nightmares when MUF started becoming a thing.

The ability to retaliate with nuclear weapons makes
it unattractive to try to conquer those who have'm.
This is useful. Iran knows it. Think we'd attack
them again if we feared nukes on Israel or home?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Because it could'a.
And it nearly did a few times.

It could have. And all that was done was beat the drum we need more and bigger bombs. Not anything to actually solve the issue that had us wanting more bombs, but just to keep building them as if that would win the Cold War.
Gorillas beating their chest at each other is all MAD is. And now because we had to have those bigger bombs and an excessively large arsenal of them, now we have Pakistan with the bomb and who is surrounded by extremists.

 

[Revoltingest]

It could have. And all that was done was beat the drum we need more and bigger bombs. Not anything to actually solve the issue that had us wanting more bombs, but just to keep building them as if that would win the Cold War.
Gorillas beating their chest at each other is all MAD is. And now because we had to have those bigger bombs and an excessively large arsenal of them, now we have Pakistan with the bomb and who is surrounded by extremists.

That wasn't all that was done.
Reagan warmed to the Russians, & negotiated
a reasonable peace with Gorbachev.

 

[sun rise]

Not at all... Biden's math is new math! And your statement was how Republicans spend while you keep a blind eye on Obama et al.

Let me do the simple math for you.

Obama 8.59/8 = 1.07 trillion per year
Trump 6.7/4 = 1.675 trillion per year

1.675 is bigger than 1.07.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

That wasn't all that was done.
Reagan warmed to the Russians, & negotiated
a reasonable peace with Gorbachev.

Something that didn't use bombs and chest beating.

 

[Revoltingest]

Something that didn't use bombs and chest beating.

They negotiated fewer bombs & beatings.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

They negotiated fewer bombs & beatings.

Which probably should've happened closer to the begging then a few decades later.
And the greatest tragedy is that we could've achieved so much more had our nations cooperated.

 

[Revoltingest]

Which probably should've happened closer to the begging then a few decades later.
And the greatest tragedy is that we could've achieved so much more had our nations cooperated.

Cooperation is often defeated by internal political concerns.

 

[Kenny]

Let me do the simple math for you.

Obama 8.59/8 = 1.07 trillion per year
Trump 6.7/4 = 1.675 trillion per year

1.675 is bigger than 1.07.

Ok... let's do simple math.

Biden... 1.9 Trillion in 3 months... and more than that is coming down the pike...
Trump... .4785 per 3 months.

1.9 Trillion is bigger than .4785

 

[Suave]

Ok... let's do simple math.

Biden... 1.9 Trillion in 3 months... and more than that is coming down the pike...
Trump... .4785 per 3 months.

1.9 Trillion is bigger than .4785

Trump...3.7 trillion per year 2020 Biden/Harris ...? per year 2021. I bet that the federal budget deficit will be less for this year than last year's federal budget deficit of 3.7 trillion dollars.

 

[We Never Know]

Ok... let's do simple math.

Biden... 1.9 Trillion in 3 months... and more than that is coming down the pike...
Trump... .4785 per 3 months.

1.9 Trillion is bigger than .4785

Lets do simple math....

When Trump took office in January 2017, the national debt stood at $19.9 trillion. In October 2020, the national debt reached a new high of over $27 trillion.
Keep in mind Trump said he would eliminate it in 8 years.

Edit...

Instead of eliminating it in 8 years, he raised it $8 trillion in 4 years.

 

[Kenny]

I suppose our federal government can always print more money in case borrowing from lenders will not suffice.

It has been one of the ways they have done it. Just print more money. End of this process is simply hyper-inflation.

Where did they get the 1.9 Trillion Covid dollars?... just printed it.

 

[Kenny]

Part of Obama's "added debt" was to pull the Country out of the massive recession caused by Republican failure to provide oversight.

Trump inherited a booming economy and added two trillion to the debt with his tax cut for the wealthy and the Corporations. A move that Democrats will need to reverse.

Yes... we always have a reason why it is OK when it is one's personal party.

My position.... it is wrong when done by the Republicans and it is still wrong when it is done by the Democrats.

While politicians just "add debt"... people like me learn to live with the money we make and place "a little" in our savings account and investment accounts. (We started by putting $3 a week in the savings account, the clothing account, the dental account, the entertainment account) for a family of 5.

 

[Kenny]

Lets do simple math....

When Trump took office in January 2017, the national debt stood at $19.9 trillion. In October 2020, the national debt reached a new high of over $27 trillion.
Keep in mind Trump said he would eliminate it in 8 years.

Edit...

Instead of eliminating it in 8 years, he raised it $8 trillion in 4 years.

Yes... Obama made the same type of prediction as he ran on "the Republicans are putting too much debt"

 

[Revoltingest]

No major war for 75 yrs, nukes have been a good investment.

I agree, but with a caution.
We almost went to full blown nuclear war with Russia
on multiple occasions.
This list isn't even complete....
5 Times Russia and America Almost Nuked Each Other (And Started World War III)
My favorite....
1983 Soviet nuclear false alarm incident - Wikipedia

So MAD did indeed work....but its success was a lucky accident.

 

[Suave]

It has been one of the ways they have done it. Just print more money. End of this process is simply hyper-inflation.

Where did they get the 1.9 Trillion Covid dollars?... just printed it.

There has not been any significant U. S. Inflation over the last 40 years. Near record low interest rates indicate there are plenty of debt lender dollars available to fund the current level of public debt.