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9/11 tragedy was described precisely in the great qur'an

Ezzedean

Active Member
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
[100.1] I swear by the runners breathing pantingly,
[100.2] Then those that produce fire striking,
[100.3] Then those that make raids at morn,
[100.4] Then thereby raise dust,
[100.5] Then rush thereby upon an assembly:
[100.6] Most surely man is ungrateful to his Lord.
[100.7] And most surely he is a witness of that.
[100.8] And most surely he is tenacious in the love of wealth.
[100.9] Does he not then know when what is in the graves is raised,
[100.10] And what is in the breasts is made.apparent?
[100.11] Most surely their Lord that day shall be fully aware of them


I find this verse very interesting. I dont believe this verse is talking about planes crashing into the WTC but I believethis verse is more about those who cause mischief on earth, aswell as those who love there wealth. Its a trait which God doesn't like in both the Bible and in the Quran. I think this verse a clear warning for the people who do such things. Wheather someone has problems with the Law, or someone has been causing Harm upon another person or persons, or even a wealthy man is living a life of Greed, I think this verse is a warning to those people. It shows them that God is All Hearing and All Knowing.

[100.9] Does he not then know when what is in the graves is raised,
[100.10] And what is in the breasts is made.apparent?
[100.11] Most surely their Lord that day shall be fully aware of them


Peace and Blessings
 

Jaymes

The cake is a lie
No, everything is not just 'cool' if you try to translate something and don't know both languages inside and out.
 

Bennettresearch

Politically Incorrect
Ezzedean said:
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
[100.1] I swear by the runners breathing pantingly,
[100.2] Then those that produce fire striking,
[100.3] Then those that make raids at morn,
[100.4] Then thereby raise dust,
[100.5] Then rush thereby upon an assembly:
[100.6] Most surely man is ungrateful to his Lord.
[100.7] And most surely he is a witness of that.
[100.8] And most surely he is tenacious in the love of wealth.
[100.9] Does he not then know when what is in the graves is raised,
[100.10] And what is in the breasts is made.apparent?
[100.11] Most surely their Lord that day shall be fully aware of them

I find this verse very interesting. I dont believe this verse is talking about planes crashing into the WTC but I believethis verse is more about those who cause mischief on earth, aswell as those who love there wealth. Its a trait which God doesn't like in both the Bible and in the Quran. I think this verse a clear warning for the people who do such things. Wheather someone has problems with the Law, or someone has been causing Harm upon another person or persons, or even a wealthy man is living a life of Greed, I think this verse is a warning to those people. It shows them that God is All Hearing and All Knowing.

[100.9] Does he not then know when what is in the graves is raised,
[100.10] And what is in the breasts is made.apparent?
[100.11] Most surely their Lord that day shall be fully aware of them

Peace and Blessings
Very good point Ezze,

It all depends upon someone's perspective. A blueprint or a warning? Are you truly peace loving or militant? Just as the Christian religions have some house cleaning to do, so do the Muslims.
 

Ezzedean

Active Member
Thanks Bennett, for both the positive feedback and actually taking time to read the post. Reflecting on both the Quran and the Bible are very important things to do, it's beautiful in the eyes of God when people attempt to gain knowledge and reflect upon his word, and I enjoy doing this with all of you.

Peace and Blessings.
Ezzedean
 

MdmSzdWhtGuy

Well-Known Member
I take the reference to house cleaning to be that there are bad elements within the Islamic religion that have no place in a civilized society. Like people who go around killing and maiming other people just because they are not Muslims, or because they are from a different Muslim sect.

People who murder in the name of their religion, whatever that religion happens to be would be the bad elements I refer to in paragraph one.

B.
 

TashaN

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Darkdale said:
Beneficent, Merciful, FIRE, RAIDS, DUST, DESTRUCTION!!!!!!! ARG The Wrath of God!!! lol Beneficent? Merciful? 9/11? Yeah, this God ain't getting no loving from me! That's for damn sure.
Many scholars said that these verses described horses in the middle of a battle or in a mission and it's features. :)
 

TashaN

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Islam Sword said:
Hi
I invite everyone to read sura"Al adeyat" in the great qur'an and you will find that it described the tragedy of 9/11 precisely.

take care
Muhammad
Please don't be excited about it unless you have any evidence for what you are claiming and many scholars said that it have nothing to do with the so called tragedy of 9/11.
 
no brother it described the tragedy of 9/11 precisely and also many events in history,like the event of israeli military aeroplanes raiding a school in egypt,killing many innocent children in the last century,the school was called:"Bahr el baqar school",these verses described the steeds in a battle,military aeroplanes,planes of 9/11 and who knows what else
peace and blessings
 

TashaN

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Islam Sword said:
no brother it described the tragedy of 9/11 precisely and also many events in history,like the event of israeli military aeroplanes raiding a school in egypt,killing many innocent children in the last century,the school was called:"Bahr el baqar school",these verses described the steeds in a battle,military aeroplanes,planes of 9/11 and who knows what else
peace and blessings
Brother i'm still waiting for a proof but you are still describing what you or others think of without any single evidance. Anyone can bring a verse from Quran or the Bible and change the meaning of it to satisfy his needs and thoughts but brother things never had done this way but we go for scholars and we ask them or at least we try by ourselves to examine the verses not just to descibe it as we wish.

Everyone has desires but please except the word of God because this is a sensitive issue if you claim somthing which God dosn't mean at all.

So, again and again where is your evidance far away from your imgination for the verses and your explaination ?? which may apply to hundreds of surah in Quran or the Bible if you used it this way.

Firstly,Killing innocent people, buildings, schools !!!! i have doubt about your information and knowledge about Holy Quran because Quran was there before 1400 years from now and you think all these normal accidents will be by name in the Quran?

Secondly, Allah will never mention in Quran such as a terrorism acts which a normal wise faithfull human being will reject, so how about Allah the most mercifull? Do you think he would accept such a thing from us? to kill each other like that? impossible !!!

I hope that you can understands my words and forgive me if i'm mistaken.
 
no brother,you are not mistaken,Allah is the most merciful really,but also his violent taking is vigorous,his majesty punishes inequitables in both macrocosm and the after life,iniquity is not making a mistake,iniquity is not repenting,about the verses i knew their meaning simply because i begged God to guide me and i'm completely against asking the scholars to make us get to know,i'll only tell you like Moses told his people:"do you exchange the lower with the better?" in surat"Al baqara",who is better than Allah to guide us and subvene us?
peace and blessings
 

TashaN

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Islam Sword said:
i begged God to guide me and i'm completely against asking the scholars to make us get to know,i'll only tell you like Moses told his people:"do you exchange the lower with the better?" in surat"Al baqara",who is better than Allah to guide us and subvene us?
peace and blessings
ok as long as you will not believe me about that we should ask the scholar so i want you to read this verse from Quran:

"O ye who believe! obey Allah, and obey the Messenger, and those charged with authority among you. If ye differ in anything among yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger, if ye do believe in Allah and the Last Day: that is best, and most suitable for final determination". (4:59)

1-Obey Allah.
2-Obey the messenger.
3-Obey those charged with authority among us.

but if those in charge differ so then we have to go for the next step.

If ye differ in anything among yourselves : ...

So, we must refer it to Allah and his Messenger Mohamed (PBUH) not our thoughts and personal assumption.

Therefore we go for number 1 which is Obeying Allah so what Allah says:

"O ye who believe! stand out firmly for Allah, as witnesses to fair dealing, and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just: that is next to Piety: and fear Allah. For Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do". (5:8)

"If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge". (9:6)

and in number 2 as i stated we have to obey prophet:
Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) said: (من قتل معاهدا لم يرح رائحة الجنة)
and that means and correct me if i'm mistaken: ( anyone who kill "moa'ahid which means the people whom are in deal and agreed to be in peace with us" will never find the smell of heaven ) and he means not that the person who kill moa'ahid will not enter to heaven but even he will not be able to smell anything from it.

In conclusion, my brother it's so important to know that we must not talk according to what we think in somthing releated to verses from Quran but from people whom are aware of this knowledge.
 

greatcalgarian

Well-Known Member
The Truth said:
ok as long as you will not believe me about that we should ask the scholar so i want you to read this verse from Quran:

"O ye who believe! obey Allah, and obey the Messenger, and those charged with authority among you. If ye differ in anything among yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger, if ye do believe in Allah and the Last Day: that is best, and most suitable for final determination". (4:59)

1-Obey Allah.
2-Obey the messenger.
3-Obey those charged with authority among us.

but if those in charge differ so then we have to go for the next step.

If ye differ in anything among yourselves : ...

So, we must refer it to Allah and his Messenger Mohamed (PBUH) not our thoughts and personal assumption.

Therefore we go for number 1 which is Obeying Allah so what Allah says:

"O ye who believe! stand out firmly for Allah, as witnesses to fair dealing, and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just: that is next to Piety: and fear Allah. For Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do". (5:8)

"If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge". (9:6)

and in number 2 as i stated we have to obey prophet:
Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) said: (من قتل معاهدا لم يرح رائحة الجنة)
and that means and correct me if i'm mistaken: ( anyone who kill "moa'ahid which means the people whom are in deal and agreed to be in peace with us" will never find the smell of heaven ) and he means not that the person who kill moa'ahid will not enter to heaven but even he will not be able to smell anything from it.

In conclusion, my brother it's so important to know that we must not talk according to what we think in somthing releated to verses from Quran but from people whom are aware of this knowledge.
We are going in a cycle from one to three and back to one. What is most important is the (3)-Obey those charged with authority among us.

What I have seen is that in all religion, whether there is a holy scripture or not, it is the problem of defining "whose charged with authority among us".
 

TashaN

Veteran Member
Premium Member
greatcalgarian said:
We are going in a cycle from one to three and back to one. What is most important is the (3)-Obey those charged with authority among us.

What I have seen is that in all religion, whether there is a holy scripture or not, it is the problem of defining "whose charged with authority among us".
Yep.. you are right.
 
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