A better world

[stvdv]

According to the Bible, God is love. God promises to solve the problems, by means of his kingdom, and he demonstrated it, by means of his appointed king Christ Jesus.

According to the Bhagavad Gita, Krishna Is God, Krishna is Love incarnate. Krishna promises to solve the problems, by means of His Love, and He demonstrates it by means of His omniscience, omnipresence and omnipotence

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Dogma.
Institutions that reward and promote anti-social behaviors.
Societies based on competition rather than cooperation.
Self-segregation.
Fear of others.

 

[stvdv]

I’ll offer solutions
1 do our best
2 do our best
3 do our best
4 if it benefits humanity go for it

1) Help Ever
1) If too hard
2) Hurt Never
2) If too hard
3) Try harder
3) If still too hard
4) Never give up
4) If still too hard
5) Do your best

All people do the best they can anyway

 

[stvdv]

Petty

Your opinion

You also just said "do our best" in threefold

Why undermine your own advice?

 

[stvdv]

Petty

Petty

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Personally, I find it fascinating how many versions of Christianity have come from the Bible.

God should have recruited some editors to address and bring attention to all those contradictions and inconsistencies before publishing.

 

[stvdv]

God should

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It would have cleared up the confusions and questions that are impossible to definitely and conclusively answer.

 

[stvdv]

Islam is the solution to all the problems in the world.

IMHO:
Islam can't even take care of the problems created in "name of Islam"

I advise Islam to first clean its own 'house' before making such bold statements

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Islam is the solution to all the problems in the world.

Such religious arrogance is very definitely a blight and plague upon humanity, creating myriads of additional problems and issues for every one issue they think they solve.
You don't know what is best for everyone. But theists--especially and particularly Christians and Muslims--think they have the antidote for all that ails us.

 

[stvdv]

It would have cleared up the confusions and questions that are impossible to definitely and conclusively answer.

Some say 'God our Father' and 'God created human in His own image'

You tell humans "you should" gets some angry
God being all knowing and powerful
You tell God "You should" gets Him???

Seems you have no fear of God
I like that
Hence the smiley

 

[Shadow Wolf]

IMHO:
Islam can't even take care of the problems created in "name of Islam"

I advise Islam to first clean its own 'house' before making such bold statements

Definitely. Many are still mortally opposed to eachother over an ancient disagreement on succession. Many have faith that is so insecure they'll travel abroad to kill those who offend their religious sensibilities. And they protest amd march we be silenced, they have no respect for our rights and ways, and they come to our lands as guests and to migrate here and demand we change and conform to their ways.
The Taliban, Boko Harram, Al Qaeda, ISIS, Hamas, these groups are not isolated incidents.
And they are their own worst enemies. It's not Christians, it's not the Jews, it's not the Great Satan of America. It is other Muslims, members of the Ummah, other people who acknowledge Muhammad as a prophet of Allah. Much of this violence cannot be rightfully pinned on Western influence. It's been going on since before the contemporary concept of the West, especially when they historically at times they have been the aggressors amd instigators (like the Ottoman Empire invasions and Barbary pirates seizing cargo and taking slaves).
And they want to say the world just needs Islam?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Some say 'God our Father' and 'God created human in His own image'

You tell humans "you should" gets some angry
God being all knowing and powerful
You tell God "You should" gets Him???

Seems you have no fear of God
I like that
Hence the smiley

I do not believe in this god so why I would I fear him?
And even if there are any gods or god, this entity should not be exempt from logic and standards amd expectations of moral and ethical considerations. If this being had a book written and it contains numerous contradictions and inconsistencies, this can only be blamed on guiding this process to make it so.
Much like how we should also be able to expect these beings to learn, unlike the Biblical god who is very violent and frequently resorts to corporal and capital punishment to deal with "sin," although this approach is recorded in the Bible to have consistently failed to actually address the issue and do anything to diminish the presence and frequency of this "sin."

 

[stvdv]

Definitely. Many are still mortally opposed to eachother over an ancient disagreement on succession. Many have faith that is so insecure they'll travel abroad to kill those who offend their religious sensibilities. And they protest amd march we be silenced, they have no respect for our rights and ways, and they come to our lands as guests and to migrate here and demand we change and conform to their ways.
The Taliban, Boko Harram, Al Qaeda, ISIS, Hamas, these groups are not isolated incidents.
And they are their own worst enemies. It's not Christians, it's not the Jews, it's not the Great Satan of America. It is other Muslims, members of the Ummah, other people who acknowledge Muhammad as a prophet of Allah. Much of this violence cannot be rightfully pinned on Western influence. It's been going on since before the contemporary concept of the West, especially when they historically at times they have been the aggressors amd instigators (like the Ottoman Empire invasions and Barbary pirates seizing cargo and taking slaves).
And they want to say the world just needs Islam?

I hope they also read this

And they protest amd march we be silenced, they have no respect for our rights and ways, and they come to our lands as guests and to migrate here and demand we change and conform to their ways.

Some claim Islam does not proselytize
Some claim Islam is without error
Some claim Islam is consistent
Some claim Islam solves all

I try to avoid making claims

I almost would claim: Islam claims a lot

 

[stvdv]

I do not believe in this god so why I would I fear him?

Would be totally inconsistent

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Some claim Islam does not proselytize

That one has been interesting. The Quran does state there is no compulsion for religion, and Allah will call to those whom he calls.
But this didn't prevent taxes, unfavorable treatment, and other undue hardships upon Christians and Jews who were under Ottoman rule. Pagans were not tolerated.
It's kind of a "long detour" to achieve the same ends, and without having to stare the hypocrisy directly in the mirror.
Sort of like how the Germanic tribes officially had no death penalty, but outlawry made it possible to kill someone without it being considered a crime (as an outlaw is outside of the protection of the law), effectively giving them the death penalty.
Or, in a responsible way, how Norway's prison system lacks an official life sentence, but the way sentencing and release works makes possible for what effectively is a life sentence.

 

[stvdv]

That one has been interesting. The Quran does state there is no compulsion for religion, and Allah will call to those whom he calls.

Yes, as with all Spiritual books, they have verses for everyone, we can pick the ones most convenient (or challenging)

No compulsion in Religion, so apostacy neither I guess.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Yes, as with all Spiritual books, they have verses for everyone, we can pick the ones most convenient (or challenging)

No compulsion in Religion, so apostacy neither I guess.

As I pointed out, this isn't so much cherry picking as it is relying on other policies to indirectly pressure people into conversion. Or in other ways even creating the same ends without having direct means of doing so.

 

[stvdv]

As I pointed out, this isn't so much cherry picking

I call it cherry picking, because I can find almost for everything a kind of opposite verse (if I would really do my best)

as it is relying on other policies to indirectly pressure people into conversion. Or in other ways even creating the same ends without having direct means of doing so.

What you describe here, I don't even call it religion. It's a complete disgrace
They can forget about all their virgin IMHO. God is good, not crazy (as per how they define God)

That is why I never joined a religion

 

[Shadow Wolf]

What you describe here, I don't even call it religion. It's a complete disgrace
They can forget about all their virgin IMHO. God is good, not crazy (as per how they define God)

That is why I never joined a religion

I was describing Ottoman policy in regards to Pagans and "people of the book."