Subduction Zone
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No, it is an excuse given to a five year old. Clean up your act and people will treat you better.Sounds like an excuse of a 5yo to me
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No, it is an excuse given to a five year old. Clean up your act and people will treat you better.Sounds like an excuse of a 5yo to me
If conditions were right, do you think he could learn in the Cambrian? Would that refute the theory of pigeon chess?Or, you could try to learn on your own for once.
No, I didn't. The topic is refuting all the nonsensical ideas you post.Note how you changed the topic again.
I don't have time, but I can help:According to the OP the fossil record falsifies/refutes the flood
Assuming that you agree with that statement, why don’t you provide your evidence for why the claim is true?
If we had a time machine I would be willing to test that concept.If conditions were right, do you think he could learn in the Cambrian? Would that refute the theory of pigeon chess?
You'll need to demonstrate your open-minded assertion is more than wind.
I have many posts from you that show you are closed minded.
Unfortunately, mine only goes forward in time.If we had a time machine I would be willing to test that concept.
All leroy has to do is defer to what science says. Just read reputable sources and apply what you learn. Adding commentary that is misleading and inaccurate, like suggesting that evolution should behave certain ways, is where you are creating problems.Again this is not supposed to be controversial stuff,
@F1fan already agreed, so why cant you?
Any of the posts where you speculate "what if X happened in evolution, like your nonsense about feathers on mammals, all that is irrelevant to anything. These comments show ignorance because it is irrelevant for anyone to speculate 'what if'. You're doing it to ignore 'what is'.But you are unable to quote a comment were I demonstrated ignorance …
If I were talking to someone else, or someone not like you, I would consider that evidence with them.No, because there are thousands of ancient stories that have non-factual and exaggerated elements which renders them embellished. This is a fact, not opinion.
Facts, reason, and reality on my side.
The inner conflict must be a ***** when you are presented with facts and reason that demonstrate your views are completely wrong. Quite a few here are correcting your errors of belief and judgment. You don't even have a working knowledge base of science to help present your arguments. All that is on you.
If you are going to present a hypothetical and one element is an actual person that exists, then that person can exist, unlike any of the thousands of gods humans have referred to in lore.
Apart from a few autocorrects my computer made, yes, that is what I said. And it's true that the gods people like you refer to behave as if they don't exist given the facts that rational people examine to inform us what is true about reality.
So if your god exists, it acts as if it doesn't given the facts we know about. It's more likely you are mistaken in your guess that a god exists.
It's odd you're going off on these irrelevant tangents instead of presenting facts that any god exists outside of human imagination.
I predict you won't.
It is my opinion that you give Noah's Flood Story far more credence than it deserves.
All I saying is that evolution allows for a wide range of data, sure in this reality mammals evolved 200M years ago and birds 150M years ago, but things could have been different mammals snd birds could have evolved at any other date (given the correct conditions)
Well if the conditions would have been adequate, why couldn’t mammals evolve 500 years ago (in the Cambrian?)
The theory of evolution happens to be very flexible and consistent with a wide range of data, both random mutations and natural selection are chaotic and hard to predict.
If only you had a god on your side.If I were talking to someone else, or someone not like you, I would consider that evidence with them.
Time is precious.
You always say "I got nothin'" the same way every time. You had time to write the post. You have time to make those giant long posts full of different font sizes, colors and erratic bolding. Huh.If I were talking to someone else, or someone not like you, I would consider that evidence with them.
Time is precious.
That turns out to be the normal, baseline response to those posts.@rational experiences Uh .... You totally lost me man.
I would suggest a testimonial, but that is only for giving courage to lions.If only you had a god on your side.
I read some things today which helps me to see where you are coming from, but I think it's a matter of knowledge.Well, I'm coming from the position that there may well be a god but it's really very unlikely likely that god is anything like that described by the texts and traditions of one sect among thousands.
I am. Are you?
So for example, the evidence seems to be that Jesus was a real historical person. The evidence suggests that there was no global flood. And so on.
The flood narrative seems more like a work of storytelling than historical document.
Maybe the stories resonate particularly for them. There is incredible power in storytelling.
If it requires faith, then you have no evidence nor need of evidence. How do you not get that?I read some things today which helps me to see where you are coming from, but I think it's a matter of knowledge.
Almost everyone thinks they have the true knowledge.
However, we know there is accurate knowledge, and falsely called knowledge.
For me, I think once we are sure of which knowledge is accurate, there is no need to doubt it.
Which I guess is what puzzles me with those who claim to believe in God - a supernatural being, and claim to accept the Bible.
I can't seem to see how the argument of "no evidence" or "evidence against" works for such persons.
I can understand a person saying these people are lying, or made up stuff, or are just plain cuckoo, but if the supernatural is accepted by someone, why would they need to see the Red Sea part, and people who believe in God, and claim protection from that being, cross over on dry land.
Can the supernatural not accomplish that?
Then why claim you need evidence?
I think that argument is incompatible with belief in God, because if someone says there is no evidence for the flood, it is quite the same as someone saying, there is no evidence for God.
I see the evidence for both, even though it requires an element of faith, because I cannot show anyone the evidence directly, but I can see it, based on a collection of facts.
Circumstantial evidence is often used in many areas of our life, but it's evidence, nonetheless.
What puzzles me are those people that claim to believe in God and that the Bible is the literal dictation of God about events that actually happened as described, yet must be unable to see that they consider God's nature to be a lie.I read some things today which helps me to see where you are coming from, but I think it's a matter of knowledge.
Almost everyone thinks they have the true knowledge.
However, we know there is accurate knowledge, and falsely called knowledge.
For me, I think once we are sure of which knowledge is accurate, there is no need to doubt it.
Which I guess is what puzzles me with those who claim to believe in God - a supernatural being, and claim to accept the Bible.
I can't seem to see how the argument of "no evidence" or "evidence against" works for such persons.
I can understand a person saying these people are lying, or made up stuff, or are just plain cuckoo, but if the supernatural is accepted by someone, why would they need to see the Red Sea part, and people who believe in God, and claim protection from that being, cross over on dry land.
Can the supernatural not accomplish that?
Then why claim you need evidence?
I think that argument is incompatible with belief in God, because if someone says there is no evidence for the flood, it is quite the same as someone saying, there is no evidence for God.
I see the evidence for both, even though it requires an element of faith, because I cannot show anyone the evidence directly, but I can see it, based on a collection of facts.
Circumstantial evidence is often used in many areas of our life, but it's evidence, nonetheless.