Well, there we go, I must be a Henotheist...Nor do I.
I believe that, technically speaking, it would be Henotheism. (Now you just have one more word to further complicate things.)
I wonder how that will go down at my bible study group!
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Well, there we go, I must be a Henotheist...Nor do I.
I believe that, technically speaking, it would be Henotheism. (Now you just have one more word to further complicate things.)
And thanks to you tooThanks for this conversation though
Depends on how honest they want to be with themselves.Well, there we go, I must be a Henotheist...
I wonder how that will go down at my bible study group!
Can one be a created being BUT: also be divine in nature and share the status of "God" with God The Father???
I ask because I (currently) believe Jesus Christ was created (as opposed to always existed) BUT is divine in nature and a part of the Godhead.
I hesitate to use the word “trinity” as it comes with so much baggage but I don’t feel comfortable with “unitarian”
If he had always existed alongside God The Father then I think that would be polytheism, but I don’t think he did, I believe he was “begotten’ by God The Father (who always existed) - he is therefore not the equal of God The Father but a subservient being whose essence is divine and who was created by God The Father - but also a part of “God” which I think is the collective noun for divine beings (beings with a divine nature - of which I believe there are three)
To complicate things further: I also believe that he is both fully human and fully divine
Does all this make sense to people?
Can one be a created being but also be divine in nature and share the status of “God” with God The Father?
While that may be true, what is orthodoxy to one group is heresy to another.In the Islamic theology, or the book Qur'an rather, you cannot even make money your divinity. So no. God does not create anything divine. No creation is divine. Not even the concept of angels. Nothing is divine.
Even the references Holy and Divine are poles apart. Anything read as "holy" does not mean "divinity".
Your view very close to the Arian view the Catholic Church called the Arian heresy. Surprisingly similar.
In the Islamic theology, or the book Qur'an rather, you cannot even make money your divinity. So no. God does not create anything divine. No creation is divine. Not even the concept of angels. Nothing is divine.
Even the references Holy and Divine are poles apart. Anything read as "holy" does not mean "divinity".
Your view very close to the Arian view the Catholic Church called the Arian heresy. Surprisingly similar.
While that may be true, what is orthodoxy to one group is heresy to another.
Can one be a created being BUT: also be divine in nature and share the status of "God" with God The Father???
Basically: Can God create an entity (such as Jesus Christ) who is God but who is also one of God’s creations???
I think this would be like God expanding himself or perhaps even reproducing asexually??? This would bring about a new meaning to “The Son of God”…
Sounds a bit polytheistic, I know…
I ask because I (currently) believe Jesus Christ was created (as opposed to always existed) BUT is divine in nature and a part of the Godhead.
I hesitate to use the word “trinity” as it comes with so much baggage but I don’t feel comfortable with “unitarian”
If he had always existed alongside God The Father then I think that would be polytheism, but I don’t think he did, I believe he was “begotten’ by God The Father (who always existed) - he is therefore not the equal of God The Father but a subservient being whose essence is divine and who was created by God The Father - but also a part of “God” which I think is the collective noun for divine beings (beings with a divine nature - of which I believe there are three)
To complicate things further: I also believe that he is both fully human and fully divine
Does all this make sense to people?
Can one be a created being but also be divine in nature and share the status of “God” with God The Father?
No Arianism did not believe Jesus was God in some way.
Can't tell if you're being serious here or not, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.Mydoxy is orthodoxy, your doxy is heresy. Has been the prevalent case forever.
Can't tell if you're being serious here or not, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
Jesus wasn't created. He was born.Can God create an entity (such as Jesus Christ)
No because semi-arians believed Jesus was more like God than the arians did.Meandflower. You are arguing against something I did not say. Thats called a strawman.
I dont mean you did that on purpose.
Anyway, maybe you should do a little more reading on the arian philosophy. Arian controversy was subordinationism. Jesus was the Logos, was subordinate to God, but was adopted as God later since he was always Gods son, and divine. Thats how as Arius calls it "the knowing of the father" takes place in Jesus. Thats why they prayed to Jesus.
Peace.
Jesus wasn't created. He was born.
These are two words, no? So, they must have something different.That is very similar to created..
This only happens is pagan world views where you have demigods.Sounds a bit polytheistic, I know…
I ask because I (currently) believe Jesus Christ was created (as opposed to always existed) BUT is divine in nature and a part of the Godhead.
No because semi-arians believed Jesus was more like God than the arians did.
He was both. He was created as God's "firstborn" long before the creation of anything else. (Colossians 1:15-17)Jesus wasn't created. He was born.
Can one be a created being BUT: also be divine in nature and share the status of "God" with God The Father???
Basically: Can God create an entity (such as Jesus Christ) who is God but who is also one of God’s creations???
I think this would be like God expanding himself or perhaps even reproducing asexually??? This would bring about a new meaning to “The Son of God”…
Sounds a bit polytheistic, I know…
I ask because I (currently) believe Jesus Christ was created (as opposed to always existed) BUT is divine in nature and a part of the Godhead.
I hesitate to use the word “trinity” as it comes with so much baggage but I don’t feel comfortable with “unitarian”
If he had always existed alongside God The Father then I think that would be polytheism, but I don’t think he did, I believe he was “begotten’ by God The Father (who always existed) - he is therefore not the equal of God The Father but a subservient being whose essence is divine and who was created by God The Father - but also a part of “God” which I think is the collective noun for divine beings (beings with a divine nature - of which I believe there are three)
To complicate things further: I also believe that he is both fully human and fully divine
Does all this make sense to people?
Can one be a created being but also be divine in nature and share the status of “God” with God The Father?