A Curious Question

[SalixIncendium]

I received this text from my ex a short time ago. For context, she is the mother of my child, identifies as Christian, but tends to be open minded and curious, especially when it comes to my religious views.

However, the question intrigues me. Are those of you in the Abrahamic paradigm aware of any such claims from any other prophet or messenger?

 

[ChristineM]

Mythologically speaking Zeus fathered around a hundred children, all layed claim to being son of god. Greek mythology was built on it

 

[PearlSeeker]

Below is a list of resurrection stories. Some of them involve also a son of god, for example the Osiris myth.

Resurrection - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Brickjectivity]

However, the question intrigues me. Are those of you in the Abrahamic paradigm aware of any such claims from any other prophet or messenger?

I've never heard of any official claims written down from History. You may recall Wizanda from the site though who I think claimed to be Jesus if I recall, and I have also met someone who claimed to be the reincarnation of one of the prophets. I've encountered on RF some claimants who struck me as nonserious. They could have been trolling us.

In Scripture there is a concept of return through other means than the Vedic concept of reincarnation. You can perhaps recreate yourself in a student through transmission of your words or breath. I can't say if that truly is a belief or doctrine at any time, however its alluded to when Jesus says he is Elijah and in his conversation with Nicodemus. Both conversations occur in the gospel John which I am told is written centuries after other gospels, so I don't know how old this thinking might be. If so it connects to a statement by Moses that a prophet like himself will come. The reason it connects is that there is a story in which some of the spirit of Moses is placed into 72 elders to enchant them with his wisdom, this word 'Spirit' actually is not a good translation and has something to do with Moses breath or perhaps the way he thinks. Therefore a subtext exists in which someday the wisdom of the 72 elders might possibly fuse together into one man (or woman?) who would then carry the full power of the spirit of Moses. I'm totally making it all up though, so its way, way out there as a wild theory. I definitely would avoid mentioning to anyone if I were you, as you will probably just embarrass yourself.

 

[sun rise]

Meher Baba indicated this Meher Baba: I Am The Son Of God The Father And God The Mother In One

I AM THE SON OF GOD THE FATHER AND GOD THE MOTHER IN ONE​

Meher Baba​

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God is One. He is both father and mother in One. He is in everyone and in everything; but God is beyond this too. I will tell you about God in the Beyond state. In the Beyond state God is both God the father and God the mother simultaneously.
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God is both the father and the mother in One. The Avatars are Sons of the Father in the Beyond state. All past Avataric periods witnessed the presence of the Avatar as the healthy, bright, wise son of God. All this means that the Avatar always remained the Beloved Son of the Father. Note that the Avatar always takes a male form and mingles with mankind as man.

Hitherto, God in the Beyond state did not have occasion to play the part of God the mother. In this Avataric period, God the Father is very pleased with me at my being infinitely bright, wise, efficient and perfect in all respects (Ustad or "shrewd") as my Father wants me to be, and I am the beloved Son of my Father. At the same time, in this form I am physically disabled. In America, in 1952, I was injured on the left side of my physical frame from leg to face. In India, in 1956, I injured my right side from the head down to the leg. Besides being physically disabled, I am also infinitely simple and guileless (Bhola). Thus I am also the well-beloved Son of my God the Mother. So, in this incarnation of the Avatar, God has the occasion, as it were, to play the part of both Father and Mother.

THE GOD-MAN, C. B. Purdom, pp. 314-315​

 

[Callisto]

Mythologically speaking Zeus fathered around a hundred children, all layed claim to being son of god. Greek mythology was built on it

Not quite the same thing, Greek mythology is an entire genealogy.

• Abraham use of "Sons of God"
• List of messiah claimants

 

[ChristineM]

Not quite the same thing, Greek mythology is an entire genealogy.

• Abraham use of "Sons of God"
• List of messiah claimants

Still as much the sons and daughters of a god as any other claimant

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

However, the question intrigues me. Are those of you in the Abrahamic paradigm aware of any such claims from any other prophet or messenger?

I think we've had at least a dozen people show up right on RF to make those sorts of claims.

Do they count as prophets? I'm not sure how anyone could be identified as a prophet, so I don't know.

 

[Callisto]

Still as much the sons and daughters of a god as any other claimant

They're not "claimants", all the gods are offspring of earlier gods including Zeus. The use of "son of God" in Abraham religions is used for fallen angels to the human, Jesus, who proclaimed himself the son of their god, and in the sense of a messiah, the chosen one. In Judaism, son of god refers to descendants of Adam like Solomon. Among the Greeks, the humans said to have been the offspring of gods are called heroes.

 

[ChristineM]

They're not "claimants", all the gods are offspring of earlier gods including Zeus. The use of "son of God" in Abraham religions is used for fallen angels to the human, Jesus, who proclaimed himself the son of their god, and in the sense of a messiah, the chosen one. In Judaism, son of god refers to descendants of Adam like Solomon. Among the Greeks, the humans said to have been the offspring of gods are called heroes

Doesn't matter, call them what you will they were still the sons/daughters of a god.

 

[libre]

You may recall Wizanda from the site though who I think claimed to be Jesus if I recall, and I have also met someone who claimed to be the reincarnation of one of the prophets. I've encountered on RF some claimants who struck me as nonserious. They could have been trolling us.

Now that's a debate thread I would love to see.
Who's the real RF jesus

 

[soulsurvivor]

I received this text from my ex a short time ago. For context, she is the mother of my child, identifies as Christian, but tends to be open minded and curious, especially when it comes to my religious views.

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However, the question intrigues me. Are those of you in the Abrahamic paradigm aware of any such claims from any other prophet or messenger?

This story does not mention 'Son of God' but Yogananda's guru seems to have been resurrected: The Autobiography of a Yogi by Swami Yogananda : Chapter 43

 

[Colt]

I received this text from my ex a short time ago. For context, she is the mother of my child, identifies as Christian, but tends to be open minded and curious, especially when it comes to my religious views.

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However, the question intrigues me. Are those of you in the Abrahamic paradigm aware of any such claims from any other prophet or messenger?

There have been Messianic and prophet claimants but none of them did what Jesus did. We are all sons of God but there are higher orders of sons. Adam was a son of God.

 

[SalixIncendium]

We seem to be disregarding the whole raising dead or being raised from the dead part of the post.

Probably my fault for sloppy wording in the question.

Allow me to rephrase the question...

Are those of you in the Abrahamic (or any other) paradigm aware of any such claims of being the son of God, raising the dead, and being raised from the dead from any other claiming to be a prophet or messenger? In other words, the question in the OP image.

 

[sun rise]

raising the dead,

People are attracted to such things and thus are prey for fakers who take advantage of that tendency to hoodwink the gullible. Real miracles would be to give the sight of God to the spiritually blind and to make those dead to the beauty and wonder of the world alive to the rich meaning of existence.

being raised from the dead

Muslims, Meher Baba and some others in India assert Jesus did not actually die on the cross. And we know today that even ordinary people who appear clinical dead sometimes are sometimes still alive. 8 People Who Were Mistakenly Pronounced Dead

 

[Ignatius A]

I received this text from my ex a short time ago. For context, she is the mother of my child, identifies as Christian, but tends to be open minded and curious, especially when it comes to my religious views.

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However, the question intrigues me. Are those of you in the Abrahamic paradigm aware of any such claims from any other prophet or messenger?

there are none.

 

[Callisto]

Doesn't matter, call them what you will they were still the sons/daughters of a god.

In the context of the op, it matters.

 

[RestlessSoul]

Didn’t Jesus refer to himself as the Son of Man? And to God as Our - not just My - Father?

 

[ChristineM]

In the context of the op, it matters.

Of course the op specified the Abrahamics. Me response covered a wider field, smacked hand deserved.

And still the sons and daughters of a god are sons or daughters of a god.

 

[Brickjectivity]

Now that's a debate thread I would love to see.
Who's the real RF jesus

If Jesus shows up on RF I don't know what that will be like. I suppose he will be able to command the server to speed up or slow down. "Speed up!" "Slow down!" Probably he can change the coloring, too. Change letter l and letter i into letter s and c.