Anthony H Miller
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To those who have been following this one sided "debate", I apologize for my time away from the forum. Also i noticed an error in my misuse of the word weather in the my previous posts. The correct word should be whether as in; whichever one of the two, as opposed to the use of weather as in; atmospheric conditions. My apologies to those who caught that.
Regarding Christian baptism:
In Matthew 10:38-39, Jesus tells us that we must take up our cross. The understanding being that every one has a cross, but it is up to the individual to take it up. He tells us that in order for a man to find his life, he must loose it first. This loss of ones life is in reference to the symbolic crucifixion that takes place at baptism when the body of sin is destroyed as written in Romans 6:6. The found life is that of ones previously dead soul.
I cannot stress enough the importance of this basic Hebrew and Christian concept as taught in both testaments, the fact that the soul can and does die. The problem is that no one seems to be teaching that truth or even accepting it. Personally one needs to ask, why?
Regarding Elijah to come: To my Jewish brothers i would hope that you take seriously the words of Malachi the prophet, his words are relevant for today.
In chapter 4 verse 5, the Lord promises to send Elijah. The warning there is to embrace the words of this prophet when he comes or suffer the consequences of a curse.
Jesus was asked if John the baptist was Elijah. Jesus was claiming to be messiah and it was reasonable for the Jews of the day to ask that question, as they were obviously familiar with Malachi 4:5.
Luke 1: 17 the angel of the Lord tells Zacharias the priest that his son would be in the spirit of Elijah. He did not say this was Elijah in the flesh, only that the spirit of Elijah would be in John. See Matthew 11:14, Matthew 17:10-11,Mark 9:11-13.
This was the first advent of Messiah as the son of man.
All true Christians have a spiritual unction within; 1 John 2:21. As believers we have this desire to share or faith with others but don't necessarily know how to go about it. Some methods work and some don't. One sunny Sunday, myself and a few others had set up a 20x10 foot tent structure with the sides open to the public in the heart of our small city. We set up rows of chairs and a small pulpit. The girls cooked food and some brought deserts. This was for street people but i told them to cook like they were cooking for Jesus, (no leftovers or that kind of stuff).
As the service progressed, (no loud revival type stuff, no loud shouting, just simple preaching of the word), a young leather jacketed fellow came up and asked me if he could preach. I said, "by all means go right ahead."
I took the time to stand back a few feet from the tent to relax and observe. Subconsciously i began talking to the Spirit. I said "Jesus we didn't do anything, we just put up this tent, prepared some food and look, this place is packed!" To my surprise The Holy Spirit downloaded a scripture. It was the last sentence in Matthew 3:3. Prepare the way of the Lord, make His paths straight. At the same time He also gave me the meaning of that simple verse. I was so excited i went around to my fellow Christians saying; "Do you know what the duty of a Christian is? Do you know what the duty of a Christian is?"I will share this understanding.
As i said previously we have this desire to share the word but do not always know how to go about it. It is no leaving some bible tract here and there then running away. Or some stupid fake dollar bill on the sidewalk with a religious message or some condemning words like your going to hell, folks know what i mean.
It is not the job of believers to beat people over the head with a bible or try to cram the Holy Spirit into others. Our job is to simply prepare the way and make His path straight. If that is done correctly the Holy spirit will walk right into that open door. The open door being that of the heart. Those other methods i mentioned only turn people off. The door slams shut leaving a feeling of contempt towards those who do that, and it has negative repercussions that carry on for a long time.
There are a myriad of ways to accomplish our part like doing a kindness to or for someone, just use your God given imagination, but remember, It is not a Christians job to force that Holy Spirit into anyone. He walks in on His own accord all we do is prepare His way.
Some times we only get to plant a seed, but sometime later, perhaps many years down the road some brother or sister will come along and water that seed or place a little fertilizer, but it is God who makes it grow. Read 1 Corinthians chapter 3.
Elijah in spirit preceded Jesus the son of man in the flesh as the scripture said. Elijah to come in the flesh will be a different matter as he will precede Jesus the Son of God!
Jesus the Son of God will have a different name, Revelation 19:12. This will be a time of God's wrath but before that day Elijah will come.
Jews and Christians are both waiting for the coming of Messiah. Christians should understand that Elijah has implications for them as well as for Jews. So who is this Elijah to come?
Paul tells us in 1Thessalonians 4:18 the Lord will return to gather His people with the trump of God. In 1 Corinthians 15:52 he tells us that it will be at the last trump.
I want to point out a glaring error for those who study using a Scofield edition of the King James version of the scriptures.
Revelation 8:13 speaks of three woes by reason of the remaining three trumpets which have not yet sounded. To the right on the page Scofield references these three.
1 is Rev 9:12. 2 is Rev 11:14.
These references are correct and refer to trumpets 5and 6. . The third woe is clearly referring to the 7th trumpet. Rev 10:7 tells us that when the 7th angel sounds the mystery of God is finished!
His last reference to Rev 12:12 however is to an insignificant woe as pertaining to the trumpets. Revelation 12 goes into things past, present and future. Revelation does not read linearly as clearly shown in Rev 1:19. To interpret things that way is a mistake. The sounding of trumpet 7 is the end of salvation as relates to the accepting of Jesus the son of man as Messiah. Things change drastically after that 7th trumpet sounds. The next event after trumpet 7 is the arrival of Messiah the Son of God. When messiah Jesus son of man comes for His people He does not touch the earth, we simply meet Him in the air. 1 Thessalonians 4:17.
Trumpet 7 is the culmination of salvation as we know it, the next event after trumpet 7 where Messiah actually comes should be preceded first by the arrival of Elijah. That takes place in trumpet 6 or woe 2.
Trumpet 6 brings upheaval and a time of reckoning before it is all over regarding chances for salvation through Jesus. It is not pleasant. Revelation 1:3 brings the Lords two witnesses on the scene. Only two individuals from scripture have not died a physical death, that is Enoch and Elijah. Enoch has witnessed history from the time he was taken up until the present. Elijah has witnessed history from the time he was taken up until now.
They are the two olive trees from Zechariah chapter 4. One is Enoch the other is Elijah. They will return and accomplish their physical death as we all do. Hebrews 9:27. This will take place in that great city which is no longer called the Holy City.
Many so-called bible scholars reject ancient manuscripts and certain historical works when it does not fit their narrative, or the theology they represent. An example would be the works of the Jewish historian Josephus. Take a look at his account of the happenings in Jerusalem from 66Ad to 70Ad. You will find an accurate account of the situation beginning in book 5 chapter 1. As you read you might think you are reading from old testament Lamentations.
Another would be THE
Regarding Christian baptism:
In Matthew 10:38-39, Jesus tells us that we must take up our cross. The understanding being that every one has a cross, but it is up to the individual to take it up. He tells us that in order for a man to find his life, he must loose it first. This loss of ones life is in reference to the symbolic crucifixion that takes place at baptism when the body of sin is destroyed as written in Romans 6:6. The found life is that of ones previously dead soul.
I cannot stress enough the importance of this basic Hebrew and Christian concept as taught in both testaments, the fact that the soul can and does die. The problem is that no one seems to be teaching that truth or even accepting it. Personally one needs to ask, why?
Regarding Elijah to come: To my Jewish brothers i would hope that you take seriously the words of Malachi the prophet, his words are relevant for today.
In chapter 4 verse 5, the Lord promises to send Elijah. The warning there is to embrace the words of this prophet when he comes or suffer the consequences of a curse.
Jesus was asked if John the baptist was Elijah. Jesus was claiming to be messiah and it was reasonable for the Jews of the day to ask that question, as they were obviously familiar with Malachi 4:5.
Luke 1: 17 the angel of the Lord tells Zacharias the priest that his son would be in the spirit of Elijah. He did not say this was Elijah in the flesh, only that the spirit of Elijah would be in John. See Matthew 11:14, Matthew 17:10-11,Mark 9:11-13.
This was the first advent of Messiah as the son of man.
All true Christians have a spiritual unction within; 1 John 2:21. As believers we have this desire to share or faith with others but don't necessarily know how to go about it. Some methods work and some don't. One sunny Sunday, myself and a few others had set up a 20x10 foot tent structure with the sides open to the public in the heart of our small city. We set up rows of chairs and a small pulpit. The girls cooked food and some brought deserts. This was for street people but i told them to cook like they were cooking for Jesus, (no leftovers or that kind of stuff).
As the service progressed, (no loud revival type stuff, no loud shouting, just simple preaching of the word), a young leather jacketed fellow came up and asked me if he could preach. I said, "by all means go right ahead."
I took the time to stand back a few feet from the tent to relax and observe. Subconsciously i began talking to the Spirit. I said "Jesus we didn't do anything, we just put up this tent, prepared some food and look, this place is packed!" To my surprise The Holy Spirit downloaded a scripture. It was the last sentence in Matthew 3:3. Prepare the way of the Lord, make His paths straight. At the same time He also gave me the meaning of that simple verse. I was so excited i went around to my fellow Christians saying; "Do you know what the duty of a Christian is? Do you know what the duty of a Christian is?"I will share this understanding.
As i said previously we have this desire to share the word but do not always know how to go about it. It is no leaving some bible tract here and there then running away. Or some stupid fake dollar bill on the sidewalk with a religious message or some condemning words like your going to hell, folks know what i mean.
It is not the job of believers to beat people over the head with a bible or try to cram the Holy Spirit into others. Our job is to simply prepare the way and make His path straight. If that is done correctly the Holy spirit will walk right into that open door. The open door being that of the heart. Those other methods i mentioned only turn people off. The door slams shut leaving a feeling of contempt towards those who do that, and it has negative repercussions that carry on for a long time.
There are a myriad of ways to accomplish our part like doing a kindness to or for someone, just use your God given imagination, but remember, It is not a Christians job to force that Holy Spirit into anyone. He walks in on His own accord all we do is prepare His way.
Some times we only get to plant a seed, but sometime later, perhaps many years down the road some brother or sister will come along and water that seed or place a little fertilizer, but it is God who makes it grow. Read 1 Corinthians chapter 3.
Elijah in spirit preceded Jesus the son of man in the flesh as the scripture said. Elijah to come in the flesh will be a different matter as he will precede Jesus the Son of God!
Jesus the Son of God will have a different name, Revelation 19:12. This will be a time of God's wrath but before that day Elijah will come.
Jews and Christians are both waiting for the coming of Messiah. Christians should understand that Elijah has implications for them as well as for Jews. So who is this Elijah to come?
Paul tells us in 1Thessalonians 4:18 the Lord will return to gather His people with the trump of God. In 1 Corinthians 15:52 he tells us that it will be at the last trump.
I want to point out a glaring error for those who study using a Scofield edition of the King James version of the scriptures.
Revelation 8:13 speaks of three woes by reason of the remaining three trumpets which have not yet sounded. To the right on the page Scofield references these three.
1 is Rev 9:12. 2 is Rev 11:14.
These references are correct and refer to trumpets 5and 6. . The third woe is clearly referring to the 7th trumpet. Rev 10:7 tells us that when the 7th angel sounds the mystery of God is finished!
His last reference to Rev 12:12 however is to an insignificant woe as pertaining to the trumpets. Revelation 12 goes into things past, present and future. Revelation does not read linearly as clearly shown in Rev 1:19. To interpret things that way is a mistake. The sounding of trumpet 7 is the end of salvation as relates to the accepting of Jesus the son of man as Messiah. Things change drastically after that 7th trumpet sounds. The next event after trumpet 7 is the arrival of Messiah the Son of God. When messiah Jesus son of man comes for His people He does not touch the earth, we simply meet Him in the air. 1 Thessalonians 4:17.
Trumpet 7 is the culmination of salvation as we know it, the next event after trumpet 7 where Messiah actually comes should be preceded first by the arrival of Elijah. That takes place in trumpet 6 or woe 2.
Trumpet 6 brings upheaval and a time of reckoning before it is all over regarding chances for salvation through Jesus. It is not pleasant. Revelation 1:3 brings the Lords two witnesses on the scene. Only two individuals from scripture have not died a physical death, that is Enoch and Elijah. Enoch has witnessed history from the time he was taken up until the present. Elijah has witnessed history from the time he was taken up until now.
They are the two olive trees from Zechariah chapter 4. One is Enoch the other is Elijah. They will return and accomplish their physical death as we all do. Hebrews 9:27. This will take place in that great city which is no longer called the Holy City.
Many so-called bible scholars reject ancient manuscripts and certain historical works when it does not fit their narrative, or the theology they represent. An example would be the works of the Jewish historian Josephus. Take a look at his account of the happenings in Jerusalem from 66Ad to 70Ad. You will find an accurate account of the situation beginning in book 5 chapter 1. As you read you might think you are reading from old testament Lamentations.
Another would be THE