Father Heathen
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For those who believe in souls, do you believe that A.I. could become advanced enough to attain one?
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A.I. and souls.
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dybmh
ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
Simple answer: yes.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
That is not just relevant to souls.
VoidCat
Use any and all pronouns including neo and it/it's
Im an animist. Everything has a soul
dybmh
ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
I agree 100%. And I almost posted these exact words. One-to-one exact match. I changed my answer, because I think the OP is asking about an advanced soul similar to or more advanced than a human soul.
Do you believe that all souls are the same?
VoidCat
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No I don't. And I also believe that human, plant, and animal souls are multiparted. Object souls not so much
dybmh
ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
OK, so now you're making me rethink my answer about AI... hmmmmmm
VoidCat
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Well i could make it more complicated by breaking down how many parts a soul has and going in detail but it gets complicated way fast and we'd have to decided what method of breaking it down I would use: Kemetic, Norse, or my own way of breaking it down? Or another method that's more based on psychology? It'd be a huge essay...
VoidCat
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@Father Heathen. Want me to break down parts of the soul then explain what parts an AI would or would not have?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Sure. As for everything having a soul, if a tree lost a branch, does it gain a new soul or does the tree lose a piece of its soul? If the branch had its own soul all long, what if the branch were broken into two? If everything had a soul, that implies soul and mind are separate things?
VoidCat
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I'll answer your questions then I'll wait till im off work to get into this subject of breaking it down which I probably wont do justice as there are whole books and hours long videos written on multiparted souls. Most of what folk think is a soul is just the consciousness. Moving from one body to the afterlife. But the way i think of a soul is a bit more complicated. To me a soul is the essence of what makes an object or being them/it. Mind in my book would be part of the soul but not all of the soul. The rest of the questions may be better answered after I am done with work
Heyo
Veteran Member
I don't believe in souls but if they existed, I'd see no reason why an AI shouldn't have one.
Kelly of the Phoenix
Well-Known Member
Not sure why not.
osgart
Nothing my eye, Something for sure
I don't think physics causes consciousness. I think A.I. is all programming and no life to the programming. It's all physical bits and bytes with nothing special otherwise going on in that regard. I think physics responds to the soul. I don't think it constructs it.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Your own.
Nope. Needs to be an organic being.
Heyo
Veteran Member
Hermit Philosopher
Selflessly here for you
I don’t think so. Not my definition of a soul, at least.
Conscious, yes. Self-consciousness too, perhaps.
And, it obviously has [programmed] agency.
Will its extensive accumulation of data (experience) eventually lead to it acquire its own [free] will, allowing it to consciously act against programming?
It will certainly be able to act as if it did. Whether that is truly the case, I think will be harder to establish.
Humbly
Hermit
Because, you know, they're actually alive as opposed to an AI which is just a program. The soul/spirit is what animates our bodies and gives us our consciousness, as I understand it. There's probably other reasons I can think of, too. I don't believe AIs will ever be self-aware, anyway.