A Look at God Only From What the Bible Teaches

[ToGodorNottoGod]

I am not. Many people have wondered, even from the days of the Prophets, what is the proof of the GOD? Here is the proof... That the people who are being fed by GOD cannot age, fall sick or die.
Therefore, any who do, yet claim to have fellowship with GOD, lie, and do not the truth.

In short: Every person claiming to be a christian, muslim, or any religion worshipping the GOD of creation, and yet still ages, falls sick and dies, is a liar. For the Living GOD of the LIving, is the GOD of immortals.

So, since all die, none worship God. That's quite the set up God has made..... there has literally been no one since Jesus who has ever not sickened, aged, and died, so by your set up ain't none of us doing it right, even all those claiming they are doing it right. Looks like we're had.

 

[ToGodorNottoGod]

This is a very good point @ToGodorNottoGod......it seems as if this thread has deteriorated into something way off topic, but since it is supposed to be what the Bible says about things.....what about weapons? Are you American by any chance? How many people who own guns actually shoot game to feed their families, compared to those who own guns in the US because they are paranoid about their fellow Americans or even their own government?

I think you are already aware that the rest of the world looks at America's gun laws and shakes their head.

Yeah, it really did get way off point. thomas t only showed up once and then never addressed the point, but hey, we had a good conversation here with some interesting ideas.
Yes I am American, and I am aware of how everyone else shakes their heads at the stupidity of the government here, which I cannot control. We get to learn the hard way, of course. It's the American thing, I suppose.

Yes, my suspicion is the paranoia comes around from all sides, the government, the various denominations of Christians, and the downgrading of our educational system which stupidfies us more than it educates us. We have become redneck spoiled rotten and are suffering the consequences of our pride, I am well aware of it, and its no fun seeing it happen.

 

[Yahcubs777]

So, since all die, none worship God. That's quite the set up God has made..... there has literally been no one since Jesus who has ever not sickened, aged, and died, so by your set up ain't none of us doing it right, even all those claiming they are doing it right. Looks like we're had.

The last person to achieve this is Elijah. Yes exactly. That is what Jesus His Pre-Eminence warned us about. HE said even the very elect would be deceived. Not sure why people disregard this.

So your deductions are correct. No man or woman or child since Elijah has transfigured in life, aside the GOD. And no man, woman or child has been fed by the GOD since the crucifixion, resurrection and ascension of Jesus His Pre-Eminence.

And even more to the point, it proves that you worship what ye know not. And it's all delusional.

You were talking about science.... Science has Looked into this, and has reasons to say it is possible. I am telling believers what is impossible with men, is possible with GOD. And that thing is that you can immortalise your physical body in life alive by the assimilation of GOD's revelations that can hatch immortal cells in your body.

You tell me who the non-believer is because it is looking like it's the "Christians".

 

[Deeje]

Let me just address some of your responses here....

would God expect you as a mere mortal to go without food and not starve to death?

HE doesn't, that is why not eating is only for IMMORTALS. As one is putting of mortality, and putting on immortality, they will not desire, or need to eat slowly from 3 meals a day to 1 meal a day, to 3 meal in two days, to 1 meal in two days, and continue to slowly get of food till it reaches 40 days no food, just before the launch into Jericho.

You do realize that God created us as mortals......and he also created all that we need on this earth to sustain our lives here indefinitely. There was never a need to gain “immortality” in the flesh because that is the exact opposite of what “mortality” means......what was God thinking? He gave us all an opportunity for "everlasting life" here on earth.....BUT you have misunderstood the difference between “everlasting life” and “immortality”......immortality is actually impossible in the flesh. Your leader has lied to you. We are created to be mortal, but it never meant that we HAD to die....only that we COULD, if we disobeyed God's commands. Life was conditional right from day one.

To create beings with free will, but not have a way to end their existence if they chose to rebel, would have created a nightmare for the Creator. Immortals cannot die, but we mortals are created to inhabit this planet and were given the means to continue living in our mortal flesh, by having access to “the tree of life”....so, as long as the humans obeyed their Creator, access to that tree was not restricted.

What was the first thing God did after those humans abused their free will and took what did not belong to them? He denied access to "the tree of life", and so death would happen as a natural consequence of that. The only way for humans to regain their original perfect mortal condition, was to restore their access to the tree of life. We lost that in Genesis, but we regain it in Revelation, only after God has eliminated from existence all who oppose him and his incoming Kingdom. You seem to be unaware of that.

Seems you don't understand the teachings of Jesus His Pre-Eminence at all. Here is one for instance.

Your father's ate manna and are dead. I am the bread of life that cometh down from heaven, he that eats of this bread shall never die, but live forever.

I believe that you have no idea about what Jesus taught.....you only have the distorted version fed to you by a very deluded individual who will lead you to death if you don’t wake up to how the devil is using him.

Jesus used his own life to pay a debt that Adam left for his children. (That is called redemption if you understand what that means) In paying that debt, Jesus provided the means to eliminate sin and it’s consequence....(ageing, sickness and death) for all mankind, who were plunged into this situation through no fault on their part. It is a free gift, but we have to qualify for it.

What was Jesus restoring for the human race by offering his life for ours? He came to restore what was lost.....everlasting life in paradise on earth, in mortal flesh....he will do this by restoring access to the one thing that would keep humans young and healthy forever....the tree of life. (Revelation 22:1-2)

Tell me what was man’s exclusive diet in the garden of Eden?
After their defection and eviction from the garden, what did God tell them that they would eat? Read Genesis 3:17-19.

“Bread” came to represent what sustains life under the present circumstances....the difficult life humans would experience outside the garden...the world that God handed over to the "god" they chose to obey.

The Bible used that symbol of the life that Jesus gave, but this “bread”, like the manna that God provided for his people in the wilderness, was a perfect food that sustained them whilst God also miraculously provided water in a desert.....neither of which humans can live without. So the bread and the water came to symbolize our need to be sustained by both physical and spiritual means. Had God not provided that through Moses, all of the Israelites would have perished in that wilderness. There was nothing in that place that would have kept them all alive.

The thing to believe in is HIS message, that you can be born again by HIS message, which is transfiguration in life alive; the process of putting of mortality, and putting on immortality in life alive without dying at all. The race is against aging, sickness and death. The Word of GOD is revelations from the Angel of the Church, the goal, is immortalisation in life. And that is how one is saved.

Again, I don't believe you know what his "message" is.
You have no idea what it means to be “born again”....and where does the transfiguration come into this? There was a purpose to the transfiguration that you seem to have missed.
Jesus promised that some of his apostles would “see him coming in his kingdom” and six days later, he chose Peter, James and John to ascend a mountain and he was transfigured before them. (Matthew 17:1-9) This was a foregleam of Jesus in his glorified state as King of God's Kingdom. His being seen with Elijah and Moses in that "vision", represented all that encompassed the Kingdom....Elijah representing the Prophets, Moses representing the Law and Jesus representing the Kingdom of God. Everything that God had provided for Israel was seen in that vision, but they had no spiritual vision and missed it.

IMO, you are not seeing the big picture because someone has blinded you. (2 Corinthians 4:3-4)

Heaven is not a ghost world and you must be born again; you must have your immortal celestial body to enter. That is why there is the resurrection first for those that failed to run their race to the finish line.

Heaven is the abode of spirit beings. The Bible tells us that "God is a spirit" and thus, all who inhabit that realm are not terrestrial beings...they live in a completely different realm to us who live a material existence.
Jesus himself placed "heaven" as the place where God dwells. (Matthew 6:9)

So your deductions are correct. No man or woman or child since Elijah has transfigured in life, aside the GOD. And no man, woman or child has been fed by the GOD since the crucifixion, resurrection and ascension of Jesus His Pre-Eminence.

Nonsense. Death as the Bible clearly states is the result of sin, which was not originally in the world when man was first created. Do you know what that means? It means that death, along with ageing and illness was never supposed to be part of our mortal existence. Adam was responsible for bringing that condition on mankind. (Romans 5:12, 18-19) Jesus was the one who came to restore God's original purpose for humans.....do you know what that was? I'll give you a clue...its nothing like what your leader has led you to believe.

And that thing is that you can immortalise your physical body in life alive by the assimilation of GOD's revelations that can hatch immortal cells in your body.

Again...this is absolute nonsense because the Bible nowhere says anything like that complete and utter distortion of God's word. The only ones granted immortality are those chosen from among mankind to rule with Christ in his heavenly Kingdom. It is granted by God and involves none of what you have been taught.
No human can immortalize their physical body.

If mortals think that they can live without eating, then I am very sorry to contemplate what lies ahead for you and those whom the devil is misleading with such fanciful ideas. He is laughing at your gullibility.....please reconsider your adherence to this madman's teachings.....or I shudder to think what will happen to you...

 

[rational experiences]

1. Aging is slowed for me right now.
2. No.
3. Because the mortal nature is being subdued so you don't even require 1 meal in 2 days without losing strength at this time in my race.
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5. If you cannot believe the law and the Prophets, you will not believe me even if i post a picture.

No, the Ark of safety is here again. We are running our race to immortalisation in life by the assimilation of Divine Eucharistic Revelations (bread of life) into our Spirit Being that when it reaches the Spirit Being, it hatches the "incorruptible seed" which supplants the blood cell system, shedding the blood in the body like you shed fat, burning the fat thereof, which is called the mortification of natural body parts by the oven of Zoe, which is the immortal cell system hatched by the Revelations being dispensed in the earth today.

There are 4 stages of positive metamorphosis which are: Egypt to gilgal, gilgal to bethel, bethel to Jericho, Jericho to Jordan and across.
Egypt is mortality 100%

Gilgal is where the intense terrestrial upbringing that gave us the wrong mindset is renewed, corrected, and prepare to catch GOD's height of Revelations.

Bethel (the house of GOD), is where aging is first slowed, then at the Hem of Bethel, aging is paused. The blood cell system is being gradually subdued by Zoe.

Jericho is where mortality has been completely overthrown, the building blocks of mortality have been brought down, the blood has been completely shed and now we are born again - old things have passed away, all things have become new. That is speaking of the very systems of the body. The immortal body has no need for the vital organs the mortal body needs. Also, procreation is no longer possible.

Jordan, is where baptism takes place; the immersion into our transfigured body. This is the stage where the water has also been drained in the body, and we are ready for transfiguration. This is what it means to be focused on the cross; the crossing from mortality into immortality in life alive without dying and waiting for resurrection.

This is the path to everlasting life signposted in 2 kings 2
Any person that died did not have everlasting life even though they will have eternal lfe after being resurrected. Resurrection is not a reward its the solution to the problem. Everlasting life is life uninterrupted. Therefore, its life without dying at all. This is the Gospel of everlasting life.

God is the subject of science creation.

Want. Human want to thesis about how God existed second.

Gods presence natural first.

Totally ignored by everyone.

The God who created presence.

Presence of God in science is God first.

A planet thesis.

Yet the planet previously not existing as a planet is not a thesis.

Fact of a human teaching after we got hurt sacrificed. Our science brothers fault.

To See. When my brain irradiated prickled burnt brain vision changed.

Science destroys earth body by lots of unnatural radiation communicators released by earth mass as sun radiation owns greater amount of radiation. A greater amount of radiation was needed to convert God mass not converting in its natural form.

in heavens to look through. Lots of unnatural radio wave communicators changing the ability to view in space things never seen suddenly are seen. science saw our destruction. Believe in copying it.

What the See meant. Conscious mind changes and cons you.

Self possession in science.

 

[rational experiences]

The last person to achieve this is Elijah. Yes exactly. That is what Jesus His Pre-Eminence warned us about. HE said even the very elect would be deceived. Not sure why people disregard this.

So your deductions are correct. No man or woman or child since Elijah has transfigured in life, aside the GOD. And no man, woman or child has been fed by the GOD since the crucifixion, resurrection and ascension of Jesus His Pre-Eminence.

And even more to the point, it proves that you worship what ye know not. And it's all delusional.

You were talking about science.... Science has Looked into this, and has reasons to say it is possible. I am telling believers what is impossible with men, is possible with GOD. And that thing is that you can immortalise your physical body in life alive by the assimilation of GOD's revelations that can hatch immortal cells in your body.

You tell me who the non-believer is because it is looking like it's the "Christians".

Our life description is human.

Our teaching the nature garden which we live with as origin life before ours was evicted with human life attacked by a God act.

Knowledge of God sought by man fake female sophist theme maths. The female theme of science man that coerced him to seek knowledge of good evil. His choice.

God immortal is one fixed body the stone.

The stone in human psyche is depicted as a humans hero.

Previous not seal as stone itself is self consuming. Of a stone body in reaction means of change. To get a spirit of God out of stone. No longer immortal.

God planet reacts constantly is changing itself daily.

Reason stone a solid is not stone inside of body God. So science taught earth was a mother with an evil dybbuk in her earth belly. Versus God man earth science.

Notice male female terms falsely inferred why science stopped using those terms.

Confused the humans controlled by stories and information the reasoning. We are of course controlled by the more intelligent who caused all deceits.

A life for a machine meant gas spirit from God stone was sought first. Without machine itself. To enable designed machine to be given a life from gods spirit.

Already proved change God. God is not immortal.

Same as a claim energy never changes as if it stays constant as its same form. Yet it changes. Is removed. Disappears. And becomes less.

These sorts of teachings get human life destroyed.

Then you have reason to argue. Why it was taught God is immortal. For respect of earth natural form.

Always a two sided reasoning yet both ownerships historic wrong. Science should never have existed. Was in fact a really bad choice.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

As a human is writing all themes thinking bible statement I get told that I must comply to a human teaching. Why?.......................................................Jesus theme. Invention science human choice from looking back. God is good owns life support which is not science...................................

Yes, the last time I looked only humans do any writing themes on Earth.
Humans used as God's secretaries writing down God's thoughts.
Interesting that you mention 'Jesus theme ' because the theme of Jesus' teaching is found at Luke 4:43.
Jesus' theme is also the Bible's theme about the 'good news of God's kingdom' - Matthew 24:14; Daniel 2:44.
Science is Not the teacher of morals or everlasting life. Religion/ Bible is the teacher of such ' life support '.
Christian meetings are life survival support classes leading to everlasting life on Earth, or for some in Heaven.

 

[Yahcubs777]

Let me just address some of your responses here....



You do realize that God created us as mortals......and he also created all that we need on this earth to sustain our lives here indefinitely.

No. GOD did not create us as mortals. We are not created we are birthed. GOD did not conceptualise you from HIS brain. The body you have, which is the fallen state, was made by your biological parents, not by GOD. Mankind, Father Adam His Eminence is brithed by the Most Holy Spirit of GOD. Mankind is not his body, he is a Spirit Being. Finally, it is written Man body was made in the image and after the likeness of HIM. So, you are calling GOD a mortal. Secondly, this earth is temporal. This earth will pack up for the celestial to take over. Its written in the bible no suprise you choose to ignore it.

There was never a need to gain “immortality” in the flesh because that is the exact opposite of what “mortality” means......

Then what is the tree of life mentioned for? Heaven is not a ghost world. No man can enter heaven without his celestial IMMORTAL body.

To create beings with free will, but not have a way to end their existence if they chose to rebel, would have created a nightmare for the Creator. Immortals cannot die, but we mortals are created to inhabit this planet and were given the means to continue living in our mortal flesh, by having access to “the tree of life”....so, as long as the humans obeyed their Creator, access to that tree was not restricted.

WRONG. The tree of life is an actual tree in the Garden of Eden. Its not symbolic and its not GOD.

What was the first thing God did after those humans abused their free will and took what did not belong to them? He denied access to "the tree of life", and so death would happen as a natural consequence of that. The only way for humans to regain their original perfect mortal condition, was to restore their access to the tree of life. We lost that in Genesis, but we regain it in Revelation, only after God has eliminated from existence all who oppose him and his incoming Kingdom. You seem to be unaware of that.

Funny, because you seem to hate my principal ancestors, you don't even wonder why the serpent wasn't kicked out or denied access to the tree of life. There is a reason for the commandment... Honor thy mother and father that they days may be long...

I believe that you have no idea about what Jesus taught.....you only have the distorted version fed to you by a very deluded individual who will lead you to death if you don’t wake up to how the devil is using him.

And now the "christian" resorts to blaming the devil, yet has no idea what the devil is. Ignorance is a terrible thing. YOU have no idea what Jesus His Pre-Eminence preached. Not to talk of what HE taught. Perhaps you can never know. We will see.

Jesus used his own life to pay a debt that Adam left for his children. (That is called redemption if you understand what that means) In paying that debt, Jesus provided the means to eliminate sin and it’s consequence....(ageing, sickness and death) for all mankind, who were plunged into this situation through no fault on their part. It is a free gift, but we have to qualify for it.

No HE came to bail out Mankind, Father Adam His Eminence, the Son of GOD, ONLY. And HIS life cannot be used. When you talk of everlasting unto everlasting, yet claim HE used HIS life, you expose yourself.

What was Jesus restoring for the human race by offering his life for ours? He came to restore what was lost.....everlasting life in paradise on earth, in mortal flesh....he will do this by restoring access to the one thing that would keep humans young and healthy forever....the tree of life. (Revelation 22:1-2)

HE wasn't restoring our lives, HE brought the message of immortalisation in life, but look at how many people have achieved it since then.... NONE. You parasidic earth is nonsense. The earth will never again be a sub-celestial planet. It will transfigure into a celestial heavens world.

Tell me what was man’s exclusive diet in the garden of Eden?
After their defection and eviction from the garden, what did God tell them that they would eat? Read Genesis 3:17-19.

Man doesn't need food to survive in Eden. The tree of the Garden of Eden give different kinds of Glory raiment. Again, ignorance is a terrible thing.

“Bread” came to represent what sustains life under the present circumstances....the difficult life humans would experience outside the garden...the world that God handed over to the "god" they chose to obey.

Bread is what is eaten. The Bread of life is the Word of GOD that is eaten.

The Bible used that symbol of the life that Jesus gave, but this “bread”, like the manna that God provided for his people in the wilderness, was a perfect food that sustained them whilst God also miraculously provided water in a desert.....neither of which humans can live without. So the bread and the water came to symbolize our need to be sustained by both physical and spiritual means. Had God not provided that through Moses, all of the Israelites would have perished in that wilderness. There was nothing in that place that would have kept them all alive.

Its not symbolic, John the Beloved called HIM the Word. IT is literal you are supposed to eat HIS Word..

Again, I don't believe you know what his "message" is.
You have no idea what it means to be “born again”....and where does the transfiguration come into this? There was a purpose to the transfiguration that you seem to have missed.
Jesus promised that some of his apostles would “see him coming in his kingdom” and six days later, he chose Peter, James and John to ascend a mountain and he was transfigured before them. (Matthew 17:1-9) This was a foregleam of Jesus in his glorified state as King of God's Kingdom. His being seen with Elijah and Moses in that "vision", represented all that encompassed the Kingdom....Elijah representing the Prophets, Moses representing the Law and Jesus representing the Kingdom of God. Everything that God had provided for Israel was seen in that vision, but they had no spiritual vision and missed it.

Those HE foreknew HE predestined to conform to the image of the Son of GOD. Another denial from you. No, they represented the kingdom authority. Then go on believing as you do. This Gospel is not for you.

IMO, you are not seeing the big picture because someone has blinded you. (2 Corinthians 4:3-4)

The bigger picture is what you haven't seen since the beginning until now, and in the yonder. Just as you arent seeing the bigger picture of 1 corinthians 15:50-56

Heaven is the abode of spirit beings. The Bible tells us that "God is a spirit" and thus, all who inhabit that realm are not terrestrial beings...they live in a completely different realm to us who live a material existence.
Jesus himself placed "heaven" as the place where God dwells. (Matthew 6:9)

lmaooo angels don't have a physical body then. They are spirits right without physical body? Cherubim as well? GOD does not reside in heaven. GOD created Heaven for HIS Son, Adam. Where did GOD reside before HE started creating? Lol youll find out when you become a ghost.

A direct denial of the book of Revelation that talks about 12 gates, and most precious stones, and golden roads and so on. But no suprise here you are indoctrinated by lies.

Nonsense. Death as the Bible clearly states is the result of sin, which was not originally in the world when man was first created. Do you know what that means? It means that death, along with ageing and illness was never supposed to be part of our mortal existence. Adam was responsible for bringing that condition on mankind. (Romans 5:12, 18-19) Jesus was the one who came to restore God's original purpose for humans.....do you know what that was? I'll give you a clue...its nothing like what your leader has led you to believe.

Then continue to age, and die. You are telling me death is good for you. Enjoy it. Its not good for me and I choose to conquer it.

Again...this is absolute nonsense because the Bible nowhere says anything like that complete and utter distortion of God's word. The only ones granted immortality are those chosen from among mankind to rule with Christ in his heavenly Kingdom. It is granted by God and involves none of what you have been taught.
No human can immortalize their physical body.

Enoch and Elijah did. You and the false preachers for the last 2000 years has distorted GOD's word to the point that you are telling me GOD wants us to die. That is the very definition of calling whats bad, good, and what is good, bad.

If mortals think that they can live without eating, then I am very sorry to contemplate what lies ahead for you and those whom the devil is misleading with such fanciful ideas. He is laughing at your gullibility.....please reconsider your adherence to this madman's teachings.....or I shudder to think what will happen to you...

Mortals don't think that. When we no longer need food we are no longer mortals. Its not about belief but i guess thats hard for you to fathom. Its about a reality. As the new wine skins are being prepared, the new wine is filling them.

Once again, keep your beliefs, and let me have mine. We will see who is right.

 

[Yahcubs777]

Our life description is human.

Our teaching the nature garden which we live with as origin life before ours was evicted with human life attacked by a God act.

Knowledge of God sought by man fake female sophist theme maths. The female theme of science man that coerced him to seek knowledge of good evil. His choice.

God immortal is one fixed body the stone.

The stone in human psyche is depicted as a humans hero.

Previous not seal as stone itself is self consuming. Of a stone body in reaction means of change. To get a spirit of God out of stone. No longer immortal.

God planet reacts constantly is changing itself daily.

Reason stone a solid is not stone inside of body God. So science taught earth was a mother with an evil dybbuk in her earth belly. Versus God man earth science.

Notice male female terms falsely inferred why science stopped using those terms.

Confused the humans controlled by stories and information the reasoning. We are of course controlled by the more intelligent who caused all deceits.

A life for a machine meant gas spirit from God stone was sought first. Without machine itself. To enable designed machine to be given a life from gods spirit.

Already proved change God. God is not immortal.

Same as a claim energy never changes as if it stays constant as its same form. Yet it changes. Is removed. Disappears. And becomes less.

These sorts of teachings get human life destroyed.

Then you have reason to argue. Why it was taught God is immortal. For respect of earth natural form.

Always a two sided reasoning yet both ownerships historic wrong. Science should never have existed. Was in fact a really bad choice.

Nonsense.

 

[rational experiences]

Nonsense.

Just because you say so.

 

[rational experiences]

Yes, the last time I looked only humans do any writing themes on Earth.
Humans used as God's secretaries writing down God's thoughts.
Interesting that you mention 'Jesus theme ' because the theme of Jesus' teaching is found at Luke 4:43.
Jesus' theme is also the Bible's theme about the 'good news of God's kingdom' - Matthew 24:14; Daniel 2:44.
Science is Not the teacher of morals or everlasting life. Religion/ Bible is the teacher of such ' life support '.
Christian meetings are life survival support classes leading to everlasting life on Earth, or for some in Heaven.

Which historic memory which is just human owned states an organised fight as with Christian movement. To stop witnessed human life sacrifice on earth. Earth natural. Occult change not natural.

Earth changed by science reactions not natural. God O earth owner immortal life.

Humans know we live with God in an immortal life. As God owned it. Humans survive.

Yet our life. Human baby. Baby teaching proof science said life died. Otherwise innocence and life continuance human baby would not have been mentioned.

What teaching it owned occultists today are not reading nor expressing the human medical advice. Ridiculed the advice. Read it as occult science. Claim the right of life fake.

Exactly what medical science the healer science self said.

Human first conscious. Natural self. No science is not lying. Theists are the liars.

Human first thinker natural basic con science.
Other humans nuclear occult con science. Not basic science first.

Stated about natural form being present. First word use. Conscience basic belongs to the conscious human.

Not thinking on behalf of an immortal God. As no man is God the medical advice.

Remove the living body God. As earth as that body compared in human thinking reacts. Why they quoted God lives. As the natural planet body is reactive. That condition not occult.

The argument constantly ridiculed by elite occult group as human greed and lifestyle is involved. In choices.

If it were just about a need for inventive technology lots of non profit science was offered. Ignored. That owned working with the planet causing the least harm to any life form.

The thesis today occult claim says I will know all things. Apply technology beyond my own self that won't be harmed by it.

A machine beyond owned self is first non reactive.

Then they react. Then change sacrificed life for they lie about their known intention. Which is previously assessed. Is stated in theories a belief of not existing first when we do exist first.

What spiritual human advice taught. Lying statements in the sciences.

 

[Yahcubs777]

Just because you say so.

No, because it is nonsense whether i say it or not.

 

[rational experiences]

No, because it is nonsense whether i say it or not.

Yet words all meanings and descriptions man human expressed. Agreed by man group. Taught by man human status your will enforced by my human will to speak using words.

So you say using words is no sense.

God after all was man science human taught. You have to be living standing on planet earth inside a natural pre existing self space body heavens to talk about it in abstract.

Seeing you know it's form and function existed before a garden body. Existed before your life human did.

Yet what nonsense you talk about in science.

 

[Deeje]

No. GOD did not create us as mortals. We are not created we are birthed. GOD did not conceptualise you from HIS brain. The body you have, which is the fallen state, was made by your biological parents, not by GOD.

So who "birthed" Adam and his wife? Last I looked, Adam was created from the dust or elements of the earth. Science backs that up. How then did "birthing" create the defects in mankind? The Bible says that sin and death are inherited from Adam (Romans 5:12; 18-19)......the one responsible for the death of the entire human race. How can you turn him into a hero? He was not deceived by the devil, but his wife was (1 Timothy 2:13-14)....so each ate of the fruit for very different reasons, but suffered the same penalty and sentencing their children to the same fate.

It was Adam's sin that necessitated that a Savior come into the world to undo the damage that he caused to all of his offspring.

Mankind, Father Adam His Eminence is brithed by the Most Holy Spirit of GOD. Mankind is not his body, he is a Spirit Being. Finally, it is written Man body was made in the image and after the likeness of HIM. So, you are calling GOD a mortal. Secondly, this earth is temporal. This earth will pack up for the celestial to take over. Its written in the bible no suprise you choose to ignore it.

Good grief, what a twisted bit of nonsense. Adam was created by God and given the ability by God to make children with his wife....he told them to fill the earth with their offspring.....but if he had not sinned, then his children would be sinless, but it is very obvious that we are born sinners. (Psalm 51:5)

Then what is the tree of life mentioned for? Heaven is not a ghost world. No man can enter heaven without his celestial IMMORTAL body.

A mortal body cannot become immortal by willing it on yourself. God created man to nourish his body with the food and water that he provided. The tree of life was there to make sure that death never overtook them unless they broke God's law. They did...and they died as a consequence of having access to that tree withdrawn.....now to succumb to sin and death by their own choices.

WRONG. The tree of life is an actual tree in the Garden of Eden. Its not symbolic and its not GOD.

No one said it was.....it was the means that God provided so that death would not come to them. Only when God withdrew access to the tree of life did death eventually overtake them. It would then overtake all humankind who descended from him. Why do you think God sent Jesus from heaven to be born as a human? God's law demands equivalency....and "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth...life for a life. The life Adam lost for his children was perfect sinless life, so only an equivalent life could redeem them. Jesus' life was that equivalent.

Funny, because you seem to hate my principal ancestors, you don't even wonder why the serpent wasn't kicked out or denied access to the tree of life. There is a reason for the commandment... Honor thy mother and father that they days may be long...

I know why the serpent wasn't kicked out of the garden, (as in God not dealing with his rebellion right there and then) but I don't think you have a clue. Why was the serpent in the garden in the first place? Do you know? Your accepting Adam and his wife as your principle ancestors is denying the reason why Jesus came to redeem us. They were the reason but not the original rebels.....satan was the instigator of the temptations that led them both down a path to death......eternal death. He cannot force us to sin, but he can set a trap for us and lead us right in to it. Why do you think he uses temptations....he even tried it on Jesus.

And now the "christian" resorts to blaming the devil, yet has no idea what the devil is. Ignorance is a terrible thing. YOU have no idea what Jesus His Pre-Eminence preached. Not to talk of what HE taught. Perhaps you can never know. We will see.

I'm afraid you have been hoodwinked....The Bible tells us exactly who the devil is, and where he came from, and what he is capable of.....he has an agenda and the Bible tells us exactly what it is......you seem oblivious.

No HE came to bail out Mankind, Father Adam His Eminence, the Son of GOD, ONLY. And HIS life cannot be used. When you talk of everlasting unto everlasting, yet claim HE used HIS life, you expose yourself.

What????

HE wasn't restoring our lives, HE brought the message of immortalisation in life, but look at how many people have achieved it since then.... NONE. You parasidic earth is nonsense. The earth will never again be a sub-celestial planet. It will transfigure into a celestial heavens world.

What???

Man doesn't need food to survive in Eden. The tree of the Garden of Eden give different kinds of Glory raiment. Again, ignorance is a terrible thing.

What???

Bread is what is eaten. The Bread of life is the Word of GOD that is eaten.

Jesus flesh was the bread of life....what on earth are you rattling on about?

Its not symbolic, John the Beloved called HIM the Word. IT is literal you are supposed to eat HIS Word..

Jesus said his disciples had to "eat his flesh and drink his blood"....if that were literal, then he would have been asking his fellow Jews to break God's law....something he would NEVER have done.

Those HE foreknew HE predestined to conform to the image of the Son of GOD. Another denial from you. No, they represented the kingdom authority. Then go on believing as you do. This Gospel is not for you.

No...its your gospel that is not for me...or anyone else here apparently..... Did you have any foundation as a Christian before your contact with the leader of your cult?...or were you a clean slate waiting to be written on?

lmaooo angels don't have a physical body then. They are spirits right without physical body? Cherubim as well? GOD does not reside in heaven. GOD created Heaven for HIS Son, Adam. Where did GOD reside before HE started creating? Lol youll find out when you become a ghost.

A direct denial of the book of Revelation that talks about 12 gates, and most precious stones, and golden roads and so on. But no suprise here you are indoctrinated by lies.

Oh dear...you guys really have lost the plot....I think I know who has been "indoctrinated".....sadly.

Then continue to age, and die. You are telling me death is good for you. Enjoy it. Its not good for me and I choose to conquer it.

I am telling you no such thing.....I am telling you that God designed your mortal body to replenish every cell in it so that you never aged or died......but Adam took that away from his children. We don't get access to the trees of life now until the coming of the Kingdom when we have our paradise restored. It will take 1,000 years to get us back to where Adam started.

Enoch and Elijah did. You and the false preachers for the last 2000 years has distorted GOD's word to the point that you are telling me GOD wants us to die. That is the very definition of calling whats bad, good, and what is good, bad.

Enoch and Elijah did not go to heaven....nor were they given immortal bodies. Enoch's life was taken by God so that his enemies would not have the pleasure of killing him. He sleeps in his grave like all the pre-Christian servants of God. Read Hebrews 11.

Elijah was taken up in a windstorm but only relocated to another part of the world where he actually wrote a letter to the King after that time. Read John 3:13. No one went to heaven before Jesus. No human was given an immortal body before he was.

When we no longer need food we are no longer mortals. Its not about belief but i guess thats hard for you to fathom. Its about a reality. As the new wine skins are being prepared, the new wine is filling them.

Or so you have been led to believe....how many of your fellow believer are you in physical contact with? How many of them are ageless and not showing signs of ageing? How old is your leader? 175? 200?

Once again, keep your beliefs, and let me have mine. We will see who is right.

I will happily do that because you do not have any idea what the Bible as a whole teaches....only what you have been fed by your deluded teacher. You do know that you are a member of a cult, don't you? Look up the definition.

We will all see who is right and who is addressed by Jesus at Matthew 7:21-23....

 

[rational experiences]

So who "birthed" Adam and his wife? Last I looked, Adam was created from the dust or elements of the earth. Science backs that up. How then did "birthing" create the defects in mankind? The Bible says that sin and death are inherited from Adam (Romans 5:12; 18-19)......the one responsible for the death of the entire human race. How can you turn him into a hero? He was not deceived by the devil, but his wife was (1 Timothy 2:13-14)....so each ate of the fruit for very different reasons, but suffered the same penalty and sentencing their children to the same fate.

It was Adam's sin that necessitated that a Savior come into the world to undo the damage that he caused to all of his offspring.



Good grief, what a twisted bit of nonsense. Adam was created by God and given the ability by God to make children with his wife....he told them to fill the earth with their offspring.....but if he had not sinned, then his children would be sinless, but it is very obvious that we are born sinners. (Psalm 51:5)


A mortal body cannot become immortal by willing it on yourself. God created man to nourish his body with the food and water that he provided. The tree of life was there to make sure that death never overtook them unless they broke God's law. They did...and they died as a consequence of having access to that tree withdrawn.....now to succumb to sin and death by their own choices.



No one said it was.....it was the means that God provided so that death would not come to them. Only when God withdrew access to the tree of life did death eventually overtake them. It would then overtake all humankind who descended from him. Why do you think God sent Jesus from heaven to be born as a human? God's law demands equivalency....and "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth...life for a life. The life Adam lost for his children was perfect sinless life, so only an equivalent life could redeem them. Jesus' life was that equivalent.



I know why the serpent wasn't kicked out of the garden, (as in God not dealing with his rebellion right there and then) but I don't think you have a clue. Why was the serpent in the garden in the first place? Do you know? Your accepting Adam and his wife as your principle ancestors is denying the reason why Jesus came to redeem us. They were the reason but not the original rebels.....satan was the instigator of the temptations that led them both down a path to death......eternal death. He cannot force us to sin, but he can set a trap for us and lead us right in to it. Why do you think he uses temptations....he even tried it on Jesus.


I'm afraid you have been hoodwinked....The Bible tells us exactly who the devil is, and where he came from, and what he is capable of.....he has an agenda and the Bible tells us exactly what it is......you seem oblivious.



What????



What???



What???



Jesus flesh was the bread of life....what on earth are you rattling on about?



Jesus said his disciples had to "eat his flesh and drink his blood"....if that were literal, then he would have been asking his fellow Jews to break God's law....something he would NEVER have done.


No...its your gospel that is not for me...or anyone else here apparently..... Did you have any foundation as a Christian before your contact with the leader of your cult?...or were you a clean slate waiting to be written on?



Oh dear...you guys really have lost the plot....I think I know who has been "indoctrinated".....sadly.



I am telling you no such thing.....I am telling you that God designed your mortal body to replenish every cell in it so that you never aged or died......but Adam took that away from his children. We don't get access to the trees of life now until the coming of the Kingdom when we have our paradise restored. It will take 1,000 years to get us back to where Adam started.



Enoch and Elijah did not go to heaven....nor were they given immortal bodies. Enoch's life was taken by God so that his enemies would not have the pleasure of killing him. He sleeps in his grave like all the pre-Christian servants of God. Read Hebrews 11.

Elijah was taken up in a windstorm but only relocated to another part of the world where he actually wrote a letter to the King after that time. Read John 3:13. No one went to heaven before Jesus. No human was given an immortal body before he was.



Or so you have been led to believe....how many of your fellow believer are you in physical contact with? How many of them are ageless and not showing signs of ageing? How old is your leader? 175? 200?



I will happily do that because you do not have any idea what the Bible as a whole teaches....only what you have been fed by your deluded teacher. You do know that you are a member of a cult, don't you? Look up the definition.

We will all see who is right and who is addressed by Jesus at Matthew 7:21-23....

Human first.

Human origin a human.

Human origin theist says I own a life human on gods earth inside gods created heavens after nature garden.

Said I was created after the nature garden. Says it as a man storyteller.

We know it is a man statement as life is after nature garden.

Said that status teaching as a human as a theist about God.

O earth.
A planet.
Man thinker living.

Said science advice came from God by my man perusal. Theist for science.

What you ignore as relevant human advice.

First humans science status. A long time ago. Before life on earth was destroyed. Theme my human brother a satanist. Conscious put conscious thought into Satan ideal.

So evolution theories are defunct actually.

Why a human in Moses science DNA review became human ape like mutated as a time shifting theory. Status theorising. Looking back. Claiming data about bodies not of your owned form
Less than self human.

Less than self human but power energy a sun. Inferred in theory as constant gas light burning in God heavens.

To own power life for machine needed a burning gas. Alchemy first burning of God to get a gas in science. Stone mass. Then burns the gas to make machine work.

How a human de evolved by radiation mutation effect whilst water and all gases existed. Natural in heavens. Advice of gas spirit given to human consciousness.

To resource spirit gas energy by burning.

To be a human scientist.

Storyteller. Theist about earth. Book writer.

God beliefs. Just human theories.

Who said when God stone never existed. A human did.

Means don't allow stone it's natural owned form by a human science thesis. O God one first a planet.

As stone only exists once. Natural. Formed naturally. Is present.

Stone fused owned no space.

Theist informed by heavenly gas spirits. To obtain stone power to not exist as stone god first I need a space.

Then I gain a gas alight to gas not burning state. A theory conversion.

So thought upon a reaction to force that space upon fusion.

Said it was dusts. Already irradiated separated from God earth. By the sun history.

Dusts what he used to get a gas spirit to give life to a human science built machine owned no space either.

The history a human theist ignored as human advice why life was sacrificed.

Reason he never owned earth. Earth O is God self owned.

Earth natural harmed life. A man titled the attack Adam and Eve by female false maths theme. Not any real female. A human.

His first man science lie. The theory story.

The scientist human who changed God as an Adam status was blamed as reasoning for natural life's harm. As he activated harm in alchemical conversion. The dusts for a machine life.

When natural proved human science was wrong. Egotism took over as a human lie. Egotists never claim they are wrong. They only argued.

Why science is a human argument.

 

[Yahcubs777]

So who "birthed" Adam and his wife? Last I looked, Adam was created from the dust or elements of the earth. Science backs that up. How then did "birthing" create the defects in mankind? The Bible says that sin and death are inherited from Adam (Romans 5:12; 18-19)......the one responsible for the death of the entire human race. How can you turn him into a hero? He was not deceived by the devil, but his wife was (1 Timothy 2:13-14)....so each ate of the fruit for very different reasons, but suffered the same penalty and sentencing their children to the same fate.

It was Adam's sin that necessitated that a Savior come into the world to undo the damage that he caused to all of his offspring.



Good grief, what a twisted bit of nonsense. Adam was created by God and given the ability by God to make children with his wife....he told them to fill the earth with their offspring.....but if he had not sinned, then his children would be sinless, but it is very obvious that we are born sinners. (Psalm 51:5)


A mortal body cannot become immortal by willing it on yourself. God created man to nourish his body with the food and water that he provided. The tree of life was there to make sure that death never overtook them unless they broke God's law. They did...and they died as a consequence of having access to that tree withdrawn.....now to succumb to sin and death by their own choices.



No one said it was.....it was the means that God provided so that death would not come to them. Only when God withdrew access to the tree of life did death eventually overtake them. It would then overtake all humankind who descended from him. Why do you think God sent Jesus from heaven to be born as a human? God's law demands equivalency....and "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth...life for a life. The life Adam lost for his children was perfect sinless life, so only an equivalent life could redeem them. Jesus' life was that equivalent.



I know why the serpent wasn't kicked out of the garden, (as in God not dealing with his rebellion right there and then) but I don't think you have a clue. Why was the serpent in the garden in the first place? Do you know? Your accepting Adam and his wife as your principle ancestors is denying the reason why Jesus came to redeem us. They were the reason but not the original rebels.....satan was the instigator of the temptations that led them both down a path to death......eternal death. He cannot force us to sin, but he can set a trap for us and lead us right in to it. Why do you think he uses temptations....he even tried it on Jesus.


I'm afraid you have been hoodwinked....The Bible tells us exactly who the devil is, and where he came from, and what he is capable of.....he has an agenda and the Bible tells us exactly what it is......you seem oblivious.



What????



What???



What???



Jesus flesh was the bread of life....what on earth are you rattling on about?



Jesus said his disciples had to "eat his flesh and drink his blood"....if that were literal, then he would have been asking his fellow Jews to break God's law....something he would NEVER have done.


No...its your gospel that is not for me...or anyone else here apparently..... Did you have any foundation as a Christian before your contact with the leader of your cult?...or were you a clean slate waiting to be written on?



Oh dear...you guys really have lost the plot....I think I know who has been "indoctrinated".....sadly.



I am telling you no such thing.....I am telling you that God designed your mortal body to replenish every cell in it so that you never aged or died......but Adam took that away from his children. We don't get access to the trees of life now until the coming of the Kingdom when we have our paradise restored. It will take 1,000 years to get us back to where Adam started.



Enoch and Elijah did not go to heaven....nor were they given immortal bodies. Enoch's life was taken by God so that his enemies would not have the pleasure of killing him. He sleeps in his grave like all the pre-Christian servants of God. Read Hebrews 11.

Elijah was taken up in a windstorm but only relocated to another part of the world where he actually wrote a letter to the King after that time. Read John 3:13. No one went to heaven before Jesus. No human was given an immortal body before he was.



Or so you have been led to believe....how many of your fellow believer are you in physical contact with? How many of them are ageless and not showing signs of ageing? How old is your leader? 175? 200?



I will happily do that because you do not have any idea what the Bible as a whole teaches....only what you have been fed by your deluded teacher. You do know that you are a member of a cult, don't you? Look up the definition.

We will all see who is right and who is addressed by Jesus at Matthew 7:21-23....

Nonsense. You are so far of from salvation its not even funny. You don't even know that GOD is the giver of children. You think you ar your aging body. And you think you know the devil hahahahahahaha what a bunch of nonsense hahahahaha you don't even know the difference between and an Angel and a cherub. No, the Gospel of the kingdom is not for you because you are not a child of the kingdom. Your Spirit did not come from GOD, you are a tare. And there is only one place destined for you. That is why you think this earth is a heaven to you. Your Spirit Being is from the abyss.

You are literal to the core. You know nothing about Heaven, or about Mankind. You are not of GOD, you are of the world. Therefore, this Gospel of the kingdom is not for you.

 

[Yahcubs777]

Human first.

Human origin a human.

Human origin theist says I own a life human on gods earth inside gods created heavens after nature garden.

Said I was created after the nature garden. Says it as a man storyteller.

We know it is a man statement as life is after nature garden.

Said that status teaching as a human as a theist about God.

O earth.
A planet.
Man thinker living.

Said science advice came from God by my man perusal. Theist for science.

What you ignore as relevant human advice.

First humans science status. A long time ago. Before life on earth was destroyed. Theme my human brother a satanist. Conscious put conscious thought into Satan ideal.

So evolution theories are defunct actually.

Why a human in Moses science DNA review became human ape like mutated as a time shifting theory. Status theorising. Looking back. Claiming data about bodies not of your owned form
Less than self human.

Less than self human but power energy a sun. Inferred in theory as constant gas light burning in God heavens.

To own power life for machine needed a burning gas. Alchemy first burning of God to get a gas in science. Stone mass. Then burns the gas to make machine work.

How a human de evolved by radiation mutation effect whilst water and all gases existed. Natural in heavens. Advice of gas spirit given to human consciousness.

To resource spirit gas energy by burning.

To be a human scientist.

Storyteller. Theist about earth. Book writer.

God beliefs. Just human theories.

Who said when God stone never existed. A human did.

Means don't allow stone it's natural owned form by a human science thesis. O God one first a planet.

As stone only exists once. Natural. Formed naturally. Is present.

Stone fused owned no space.

Theist informed by heavenly gas spirits. To obtain stone power to not exist as stone god first I need a space.

Then I gain a gas alight to gas not burning state. A theory conversion.

So thought upon a reaction to force that space upon fusion.

Said it was dusts. Already irradiated separated from God earth. By the sun history.

Dusts what he used to get a gas spirit to give life to a human science built machine owned no space either.

The history a human theist ignored as human advice why life was sacrificed.

Reason he never owned earth. Earth O is God self owned.

Earth natural harmed life. A man titled the attack Adam and Eve by female false maths theme. Not any real female. A human.

His first man science lie. The theory story.

The scientist human who changed God as an Adam status was blamed as reasoning for natural life's harm. As he activated harm in alchemical conversion. The dusts for a machine life.

When natural proved human science was wrong. Egotism took over as a human lie. Egotists never claim they are wrong. They only argued.

Why science is a human argument.

Nonsense.

 

[rational experiences]

Nonsense.

If you say so.

 

[rational experiences]

Nonsense. You are so far of from salvation its not even funny. You don't even know that GOD is the giver of children. You think you ar your aging body. And you think you know the devil hahahahahahaha what a bunch of nonsense hahahahaha you don't even know the difference between and an Angel and a cherub. No, the Gospel of the kingdom is not for you because you are not a child of the kingdom. Your Spirit did not come from GOD, you are a tare. And there is only one place destined for you. That is why you think this earth is a heaven to you. Your Spirit Being is from the abyss.

You are literal to the core. You know nothing about Heaven, or about Mankind. You are not of GOD, you are of the world. Therefore, this Gospel of the kingdom is not for you.

And do you think you are God I suppose.

 

[Deeje]

And do you think you are God I suppose.

LOL...no I think you have reserved that spot for your teacher......