A majority of Muslims in England are against free speech, according to a poll

[Mohamed]

..... and yet they often use the free speech to preach hate and threaten the countries they move too. What a shining endorsement for integration and immigration even if it isnt an appropriate majority.

Then again if they don't like it, they should probably stop holding up signs saying "behead those who insult islam" and the such.

i really can't find how protesting to demand something became preaching hate and threatening the country!!!!
they have a point of view that prophets must not be insulted to keep peace and good feelings in the society,then the protested to demand that,what's wrong about that?!!!

you want them to shutup and obey the government all the way because they are not origonal british!!!,what a liberal thoughts

 

[darkendless]

i really can't find how protesting to demand something became preaching hate and threatening the country!!!!
they have a point of view that prophets must not be insulted to keep peace and good feelings in the society,then the protested to demand that,what's wrong about that?!!!

you want them to shutup and obey the government all the way because they are not origonal british!!!,what a liberal thoughts

Holding a sign saying "behead those who insult islam" is provocaitive. We can insult islam if we choose too. People who are offended by religious bashing need to stop putting their beliefs on display or move to a country more suited to their religious beliefs. It is not the wests responsibility to be sensitive. Havn't you noticed that the more tabboo something is, the more fun it is to criticise?

I don't care if they want to protest but at least protest against something that isn't an utter waste of time. Protesting because others don't show respect for their religion? Respect is earnt not a given.

Somehow it bothers me that Islam and muslims (not all of them of course) are hyper-sensitive and over-react to any form of criticism. It almost feels like we should actually care about their beliefs.

 

[Mohamed]

Somehow it bothers me that Islam and muslims (not all of them of course) are hyper-sensitive and over-react to any form of criticism. It almost feels like we should actually care about their beliefs.

that's because they got dealed very unfair for long time
it's wrong ofcourse but i'm just saying the reason

 

[darkendless]

that's because they got dealed very unfair for long time
it's wrong ofcourse but i'm just saying the reason

So because you all have a chip on your shoulder we should be extra nice to you?

Should we also be extra nice to German Jews because 60 years ago they were persecuted. Even the ones as old as I am who were born 50 years after the attrocities?

I'm afraid I cannot see your logic on this one?

 

[Mohamed]

So because you all have a chip on your shoulder we should be extra nice to you?

Should we also be extra nice to German Jews because 60 years ago they were persecuted. Even the ones as old as I am who were born 50 years after the attrocities?

I'm afraid I cannot see your logic on this one?

i said they are sensitive,but they don't demand you to be nice
thier demands was clear and really logic,to ban insulting prophets because that creates bad feeling in the society and threaten it's unity,notice that despite all that,no muslim thought about insulting any prophet,saint,or even priest as a respond

we are the one nice to you
and about jews,aren't you nice to them!!!!!!!!!!!
you sent them on ships to palestine and protected them despite thier crimes,Israel is the spoiled baby of the world,because of the haulocust,even it's forbidden to deny it!!!,what a freedom of speech

 

[darkendless]

i said they are sensitive,but they don't demand you to be nice
thier demands was clear and really logic,to ban insulting prophets because that creates bad feeling in the society and threaten it's unity,notice that despite all that,no muslim thought about insulting any prophet,saint,or even priest as a respond

we are the one nice to you
and about jews,aren't you nice to them!!!!!!!!!!!
you sent them on ships to palestine and protected them despite thier crimes,Israel is the spoiled baby of the world,because of the haulocust,even it's forbidden to deny it!!!,what a freedom of speech

Ban insulting prophets? I think you assume we actually care if we insult you. There is such thing as satire and in the West if someone is insulted it is their problem. If muslims are so uptight that they cannot handle insults, perhaps they should find a more dimensionless society to complain about?

Israel rants? Come on man, I don't give a damn about Israel or the Palestinians. If it were up to me nobody would live there because they both act like children.

 

[Mohamed]

Ban insulting prophets? I think you assume we actually care if we insult you. There is such thing as satire and in the West if someone is insulted it is their problem. If muslims are so uptight that they cannot handle insults, perhaps they should find a more dimensionless society to complain about?

Israel rants? Come on man, I don't give a damn about Israel or the Palestinians. If it were up to me nobody would live there because they both act like children.

i'm not saying you have to do what they demand
i'm just saying it's not radical demad


not you as a person,but Europe and USA
England,Balfour Declaration!!!

you think that they were able to take the land by themselves??!!
ah both act like children
taking land is childish move,ah i see,i told you it's world's baby

 

[darkendless]

i'm not saying you have to do what they demand
i'm just saying it's not radical demad


not you as a person,but Europe and USA
England,Balfour Declaration!!!

you think that they were able to take the land by themselves??!!
ah both act like children
taking land is childish move,ah i see,i told you it's world's baby

Yes it is because radicals are making it radical. Why would we change the way our societies run to accomodate you? Are muslims and their sensitive beliefs our problem? Not at all.

Look I know people can get up tight over beliefs and its not only muslims, but they are the ones with multiple examples of violent threats in public over insulting Mohammed.

Give me one good reason not to insult Mohammed, its my right. Just like its your right to criticise Israel and America. Why would countries stop people speaking their minds? Europe doesn't care if people insult muslims.

 

[Mohamed]

Yes it is because radicals are making it radical. Why would we change the way our societies run to accomodate you? Are muslims and their sensitive beliefs our problem? Not at all.

Look I know people can get up tight over beliefs and its not only muslims, but they are the ones with multiple examples of violent threats in public over insulting Mohammed.

Give me one good reason not to insult Mohammed, its my right. Just like its your right to criticise Israel and America. Why would countries stop people speaking their minds? Europe doesn't care if people insult muslims.

i keep saying that i'm not telling to answer thier demand,but as long as they demand peacefully,they are alright

but the point is,you keep telling (our society),don't forget that they are part of that society too,and maybe they become majority once

 

[England my lionheart]

i really can't find how protesting to demand something became preaching hate and threatening the country!!!!
they have a point of view that prophets must not be insulted to keep peace and good feelings in the society,then the protested to demand that,what's wrong about that?!!!

The thing with claimed Prophets, because thats what they are is this,they are Humans like any other Humans except they claim to have had a connection to a supposed God,thats faith and all well and good but they do not deserve any special treatment or respect.


you want them to shutup and obey the government all the way because they are not origonal british!!!,what a liberal thoughts

They are as free as any other British person to speak out but inciting violence is not allowed by anyone:

Examples of inciting violence which is against the law for any British citizen,the problem for these demonstators in the pictures is they obviously have no idea what freedom of speech actually is but its something they should come to terms with if they are going to live in Britain.

 

[Mohamed]

you have courts
just send these people who raises such demands to the court and find out what the jaudge will say

another question please
can i deny haulocust in Britain?!!

 

[England my lionheart]

you have courts
just send these people who raises such demands to the court and find out what the jaudge will say

I agree

another question please
can i deny haulocust in Britain?!!

Yes you can if you want to look like an idiot because the Holocaust is a well documented piece of history.

 

[Father Heathen]

you mean we should have given no care to him??

Be a mature adult and ignore it.

 

[Father Heathen]

can i deny haulocust in Britain?!!

To hold such a view would be willfully ignorant of historical evidence to the contrary, but it shouldn't be illegal.

Countries that embrace freedom are elevated well above those that do not.

 

[Revoltingest]

Be a mature adult and ignore it.

How dare you demand that!
It might violate his religion.

OK, OK, I know...that joke was in bad taste.

 

[jarofthoughts]

that's because they got dealed very unfair for long time

How were they dealt with unfairly?

 

[Mohamed]

Be a mature adult and ignore it.

i agree
but i can't blame those who got nervous to respond him
i see that we shoud have boycotted the journal

 

[Father Heathen]

i agree
but i can't blame those who got nervous to respond him
i see that we shoud have boycotted the journal

No, the emotional reactions were excessive, ridiculous and in no way proportionate to the "offense". People will say and do what they will, and as long as they're not actually harming the innocent then people should simply pay them no mind. What's what civilized people do, anyway.

 

[Mohamed]

To hold such a view would be willfully ignorant of historical evidence to the contrary, but it shouldn't be illegal.

Countries that embrace freedom are elevated well above those that do not.

i'm not talking about what is ignorance and what is right
for me it's idiocy to show a man who has established the greated civilization ever,the biggest empire ever as an ignorant,violent,and idiont man

i'm talking about freedom of speech,it's duplicty
i'm not denying haulocust at all,but how come i'm not free to say whatever i want?!
how come there is a charge called Antisemitismus
!!

 

[Mohamed]

Yes you can if you want to look like an idiot because the Holocaust is a well documented piece of history.

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