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A majority of Muslims in England are against free speech, according to a poll

Mohamed

Member
Please explain to me how you think Muslims in, say, Scandinavia are being treated unfairly, or, if that's too difficult (which I'd understand as not everyone is on the up and up on Scandinavian politics), in northern Europe.


no,i were to name coyntries if they were dealed unfairly as countries
but surely they were dealed unfairly because they are important to islam

i can talk alot and show how much islam was dealed unfairly
but the ward (Palastine) is enough
 

JacobEzra.

Dr. Greenthumb
I think Free speech is good.

But there is some double standards. If you say something bad about Blacks or Jews you are demonized. But seems to be okay for people to say bad things about Muslims and Spanish speaking folks.
 

Mazdak

Member
I think Free speech is good.

But there is some double standards. If you say something bad about Blacks or Jews you are demonized. But seems to be okay for people to say bad things about Muslims and Spanish speaking folks.

Add Christians into the group of people you're allowed to say bad things about.

In such a time when we are allowed to have "art" like "**** Christ" or offensive (what Muslims would consider offensive) drawings of Mohammed, it seems like some speech is more free than other speech.
 

Mohamed

Member
Hamas does not really help Palestinian issue. And I am all for Palestinian Statehood


i find that too,but Israel pushes them towards facing
while they are not able to face them
and for sorrow,i don't really think that it would differ much if Hamas wasn't there

anyway things are going to change next years i think
 

JacobEzra.

Dr. Greenthumb
Add Christians into the group of people you're allowed to say bad things about.

In such a time when we are allowed to have "art" like "**** Christ" or offensive (what Muslims would consider offensive) drawings of Mohammed, it seems like some speech is more free than other speech.
Yes yes, you are right. I have started noticing the anti-christian sentiment has risen a bit. Though I used to be a part of the group who said such things to Christians. I ccan tell you, in a secular atheist society,no one cared if you picked on the christian kid.

It all stems form a lack of respect, like I said, there is a double standard. You have to respect a black or Jew, because if you don't you will be demonized.
 

Mohamed

Member
I think Free speech is good.

But there is some double standards. If you say something bad about Blacks or Jews you are demonized. But seems to be okay for people to say bad things about Muslims and Spanish speaking folks.


you really hit the point
because of my poor english,i failed to say that for 2 days lol
 

JacobEzra.

Dr. Greenthumb
i find that too,but Israel pushes them towards facing
while they are not able to face them
and for sorrow,i don't really think that it would differ much if Hamas wasn't there

anyway things are going to change next years i think
I think when people see an armed resistance, it helps them to dehumanize and justify the killings of Palestinians. Though I do think the same, that even if Hamas wasn't there, not much would differ.

I can not criticize that much though, since I am a born and raised in a peaceful area, war wise. But Hamas would be more credible if they attacked IDF more then coffee shops. :(
 

beenie

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
i said
Palastine is enough word
then you said


(the extremists that can't seem to let it's people progress)

who are the extremists in Palastine??!

Your post was unclear; when you said 80% of our people are occupied, I didn't know you were speaking of Palestine.

My opinion still stands to a certain extent. As long as neither side is willing to compromise at all, there will be little to no progress. That's how it is with most situations.
 

JacobEzra.

Dr. Greenthumb
My opinion still stands to a certain extent. As long as neither side is willing to compromise at all, there will be little to no progress. That's how it is with most situations.

I agree. Yet it seems understandable how the people feel in Palestine. Where they are subjected to treatment like second class citizens, if that.
 

Mohamed

Member
I think when people see an armed resistance, it helps them to dehumanize and justify the killings of Palestinians. Though I do think the same, that even if Hamas wasn't there, not much would differ.

I can not criticize that much though, since I am a born and raised in a peaceful area, war wise. But Hamas would be more credible if they attacked IDF more then coffee shops. :(

yes that's why we can't name them extremists,they are resistance,poor resistance
 

Mazdak

Member
Yes yes, you are right. I have started noticing the anti-christian sentiment has risen a bit. Though I used to be a part of the group who said such things to Christians. I ccan tell you, in a secular atheist society,no one cared if you picked on the christian kid.

It all stems form a lack of respect, like I said, there is a double standard. You have to respect a black or Jew, because if you don't you will be demonized.

If you ask me, ordinary white folks get the short end of the stick too. I myself grew up in a rather mixed-race area of New York City. If there was ever a fight between a white kid and a black kid (or even several black kids), it would be the white guy who got in trouble and got a lecture for being a "racist," never mind that bullies come in all shapes, colors and sizes.
 

Mohamed

Member
Your post was unclear; when you said 80% of our people are occupied, I didn't know you were speaking of Palestine.

My opinion still stands to a certain extent. As long as neither side is willing to compromise at all, there will be little to no progress. That's how it is with most situations.


in fact arabs compromised for 60 year
we almost gave them the whole land and just took some parts but they still building in palastinian land,we are begging 1967 land from Israel,US,EU,and UN
but Israel and US still insist not to do
that will bring nothing but war in the future,espicially after arab revolutions
 
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